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Old Jun 30, 2023 | 10:21 AM
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Vehicle started overheating. Now going by temperature gauge on dash mind you. Cannot keep coolant in it. I did only fill half way in the expansion tank. Let run and gauge just about hitting 240. Upon cool down she spits a lot of coolant out the overflow. I have tried multiple times to fill and found that the upper radiator hose doesn't seem to be having much flow. Drove to get ac charged and actually took the top hose off without any coolant in at all. I tried readjusting the hose to not have so high of an arc but to no avail... Granted the water pump is the original. Should I start with the water pump change?
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Vehicle started overheating. Now going by temperature gauge on dash mind you. Cannot keep coolant in it. I did only fill half way in the expansion tank. Let run and gauge just about hitting 240. Upon cool down she spits a lot of coolant out the overflow. I have tried multiple times to fill and found that the upper radiator hose doesn't seem to be having much flow. Drove to get ac charged and actually took the top hose off without any coolant in at all. I tried readjusting the hose to not have so high of an arc but to no avail... Granted the water pump is the original. Should I start with the water pump change?
Sounds like your thermostat is stuck closed. Easy and inexpensive to replace.

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Old Jun 30, 2023 | 10:29 AM
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That tstat is only like 3 months old. I understand they go bad and can be bad from factory. But I've been chasing this for weeks. I finally bought a IR temp reader and its reading 190 at the tstat housing. Lower radiator hose 160ish and upper hose toward tstat 180 and toward radiator 170. So no coolant flowing through top hose. At the point of changing water pump just to rule that out!
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Old Jun 30, 2023 | 10:47 AM
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Certainly possible that the water pump is bad especially since you say it is the original pump. Have you checked to make sure the lower hose isn't collapsing. This has been known to happen.

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Old Jun 30, 2023 | 10:50 AM
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Certainly possible that the water pump is bad especially since you say it is the original pump. Have you checked to make sure the lower hose isn't collapsing. This has been known to happen.

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I have a new OEM hose for the bottom also. Just going to go all in and change everything - water pump, both hoses, sending unit and tstat.
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The sending unit is near the T-stat, so if the T-stat reading ( with IR) is only 190, sender shouldn’t be too much more (240 doesn’t sound right).

only overflows when turned off ( cooling down)? Not when running and approaching 240?

have you replaced the cap?
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I agree with post #6. Have the radiator cap checked to see if it holds 13lbs pressure. If your water pump was bad I would think that your IR gun would read hot temps. Remember 1/2 full when cold and if the radiator cap will not hold pressure tho top hose will feel empty and the system will push fluid out instead of holding pressure from expansion.

Try to troubleshoot before you start throwing $$ at it.
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Sounds like you have air in the system. This happened to me several years ago after changing the thermostat on my 64. Took several tries but I finally got the system bled and now runs cool.
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So going from the start…. Vehicle overheated driving and blew upper hose off. Towed home and replaced hose. Since then have had issue with overheating. Even with cap off and idle overheat. Put burper system on and still overheat. This is why I’m leaning toward water pump.
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If your IR gun is only showing temps below 200*, then it sounds like you're getting circulation. As stated earlier in post #6, get a new 15# radiator cap and try that first. System shouldn't puke at temps below 200*...system is not holding pressure...radiator cap.
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Is thermostat installed right side up. Take it out and heat it to a boil in a pan on the stove. I also drill a 1/16" hole in the thermostat.
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Never had need to change out a pump unless it leaked. Used to be in the 60s and 70s that was about every 40-50k miles.
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Originally Posted by tbarb
I agree with post #6. Have the radiator cap checked to see if it holds 13lbs pressure. If your water pump was bad I would think that your IR gun would read hot temps. Remember 1/2 full when cold and if the radiator cap will not hold pressure tho top hose will feel empty and the system will push fluid out instead of holding pressure from expansion.

Try to troubleshoot before you start throwing $$ at it.
since this was my dads that he’s had since new and free to me I don’t mind throwing money at it. Since it was not original engine I’ve already added Vintage Air, Fuel Injection, MSD distributor and ignition.
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Originally Posted by sting ry
Sounds like you have air in the system. This happened to me several years ago after changing the thermostat on my 64. Took several tries but I finally got the system bled and now runs cool.
Same problem on my 63.. Bought new rad-cap for my Expansion tank-bled the air out 3 times-now its fine.
Good luck.
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Fan Clutch?
replaced with fan clutch eliminator kit.
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replaced with fan clutch eliminator kit.
Then all I have left is an air bubble as sombody posted before (remove new thermostat and fill through block not the expansion tank)
or you have a bad head gasket
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Originally Posted by agassi70
replaced with fan clutch eliminator kit.
So is it safe to say that the eliminator was to address a previous overheating issue?

Water pumps can't pump air, and it really seems as if an air pocket is at least part of your trouble. I'm not sure that I understand the 'burper' system you're referring to as having installed.
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Just take the stat out for a quick test. That will guarantee flow and eliminate any air bubble, if there is one.
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Originally Posted by ChrisBlair
So is it safe to say that the eliminator was to address a previous overheating issue?
correct

Water pumps can't pump air, and it really seems as if an air pocket is at least part of your trouble. I'm not sure that I understand the 'burper' system you're referring to as having installed.
the funnel that goes in the tank and run until air is all out.
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