[C2] Is the pin worn out on your clutch pedal's welded flange? Consider this...
#1
Melting Slicks
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Is the pin worn out on your clutch pedal's welded flange? Consider this...
Not long ago I removed and rebuilt my car's clutch and brake pedal assembly because the shared rod for my clutch and brake pedals was soooo sticky (due to old/wrong lubrication) that BOTH pedals moved in unison about an inch of travel. To see what I'm talking about click here to go to the OP. During the disassembly process I noticed the pin of my car's clutch pedal's welded flange had a noticeable groove worn into it from use; not bad and I've seen a lot worse, but while I was there I thought about pressing the pin out and replacing it but I couldn't find just the pin and that pin (if I'm not mistaken) is factory tac welded to the flange. So, not only could I not find just the pin but I'd also have to weld the pin to the flange and I'm not a welder. So I called my machinist to get his thoughts and he came up with a good plan that I'll share for anyone in a similar situation. See below, scroll down.
Here is the clutch pedal welded flange pin I'm talking about...
My machinist suggested that he create a bushing between the pin and the clutch push rod and here's how he did it.
Here is the junction of the clutch pedal and the clutch push rod with the correct spacers /washers installed on both sides of the clutch push rod.
Here is the junction of the clutch pedal and the clutch push rod with the correct spacers /washers installed on both sides of the clutch push rod.
Reaming to .403 ID
Reaming to .403 ID
Reaming to .403 ID
Choosing bushing material. He chose aluminum-bronze.
Machining the aluminum-bronze
The bushing was machined 0.002 greater than the ID of the hole in the clutch push rod and was pressed in. For extra insurance he used permanent red loctite.
The bushing was machined 0.002 greater than the ID of the hole in the clutch push rod and was pressed in. For extra insurance he used permanent red loctite.
I know there could be a debate about the choice of material (there's a lot of possible choices) but I put my trust in my machinist (who is also a car guy) and he chose aluminum-bronze because it's a hard bronze and it work-hardens the more you use it and no lubrication is needed.
Since the bushing is surrounded on both sides by a larger washer, the bushing isn't going anywhere and I'm sure the bushing will outlast me and/or the # of clutch pushes that I'll put it through.
Anyway, I hope this post helps someone who might be in a similar situation.
Here is the clutch pedal welded flange pin I'm talking about...
My machinist suggested that he create a bushing between the pin and the clutch push rod and here's how he did it.
Here is the junction of the clutch pedal and the clutch push rod with the correct spacers /washers installed on both sides of the clutch push rod.
Here is the junction of the clutch pedal and the clutch push rod with the correct spacers /washers installed on both sides of the clutch push rod.
Reaming to .403 ID
Reaming to .403 ID
Reaming to .403 ID
Choosing bushing material. He chose aluminum-bronze.
Machining the aluminum-bronze
The bushing was machined 0.002 greater than the ID of the hole in the clutch push rod and was pressed in. For extra insurance he used permanent red loctite.
The bushing was machined 0.002 greater than the ID of the hole in the clutch push rod and was pressed in. For extra insurance he used permanent red loctite.
I know there could be a debate about the choice of material (there's a lot of possible choices) but I put my trust in my machinist (who is also a car guy) and he chose aluminum-bronze because it's a hard bronze and it work-hardens the more you use it and no lubrication is needed.
Since the bushing is surrounded on both sides by a larger washer, the bushing isn't going anywhere and I'm sure the bushing will outlast me and/or the # of clutch pushes that I'll put it through.
Anyway, I hope this post helps someone who might be in a similar situation.
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#2
Instructor
That's a good fix if the hole of the rod is worn, but I don't think it addresses the pin wear. The moving contact area is still on the worn pin surface. If the bushing was made to press fit over the pin, with the new moving contact area on the OD of the bushing, then you'd have solved it.
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#3
Melting Slicks
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That's a good fix if the hole of the rod is worn, but I don't think it addresses the pin wear. The moving contact area is still on the worn pin surface. If the bushing was made to press fit over the pin, with the new moving contact area on the OD of the bushing, then you'd have solved it.
#4
Team Owner
Did you have xtra bushings made, just in case?
#5
Melting Slicks
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#6
Burning Brakes
Admire the work put into this repair. I wonder if a 5/16 or 3/8 clevis pin would suffice in this application. Use a flanged oilite brass bushing over the clevis. Bushings are made oversize to fit shafts, cut down length as needed.
#7
Melting Slicks
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I have to admit that I have to see pix to better understand ideas. For the benefit of those who might find this post when they are considering all other options, could I talk you into posting up some pix of your idea? Thanks.