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Old Dec 19, 2024 | 11:07 AM
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Unfortunately, GM stopped making them a few years ago but I have two vehicles that we built with a brand new GM 350 four bolt main 260 hp rated crate. Built in Mexico, great for new builds or replacements where a super high power motor is not needed. The best part of all, you could get them DELIVERED for less than $1,500

IIRC weren't those called and sold as their "Target Master" engine brand name ? I put one for $1,600 CAD into a 75 Monza back in the mid eighties.
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I would go with a 383 instead of a 350, the cost difference is negligible and you want 'oomph'....
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Old Dec 19, 2024 | 01:30 PM
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You want 'oomph'????

How about 'OOMPH'........ pick their latest Big Block..... comes with a 30 Month / 50,000 mile Warranty.....

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Old Dec 19, 2024 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Dad's '66 427
You want 'oomph'????

How about 'OOMPH'........ pick their latest Big Block..... comes with a 30 Month / 50,000 mile Warranty.....
Why stop there?? May as well go with a Donovan block & a 14-71 blower.....
All kidding aside, there is no difference installing a 383 over a 350 with the exception of MAYBE the flywheel depending on how the crank is balanced.
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Old Dec 19, 2024 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by BD104X
Why stop there?? May as well go with a Donovan block & a 14-71 blower.....
All kidding aside, there is no difference installing a 383 over a 350 with the exception of MAYBE the flywheel depending on how the crank is balanced.
Agreed completely on the 383 over the 350......

Regarding the 14-71....... we ditched those a couple of decades ago..... PSI Screw Blower from now on.....
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Ain't No Replacement For Displacement.....BB Baby......Not wanting to turn 7 bazillion RPM to make power..........Incoming. .!!
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I installed a blueprint 383 in my 62 been a great engine. 468 hp
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Old Dec 19, 2024 | 06:55 PM
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ZZ4 baby all the way.
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You don’t want to go overboard if you have the rest of the drivetrain stock.
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Here is something to think about if your car has a manual transmission. This could be a great time to upgrade your transmission along with your engine, especially if your clutch and Muncie 4 speed have seen better days. The Tremec TKX 5 speed will fit in the tunnel with no modifications. Even the shifter handle will go through the existing opening. It is nice to have that 5th gear overdrive on the highway. Blueprint Engines has what they call the builder series, which includes the engine, clutch, and transmission already assembled, so you don't have to worry about correct alignment.

I think Blueprint also has auto tranny builder series models as well.
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Old Dec 20, 2024 | 12:55 PM
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Another question……I could purchase an engine fully dressed with carb and intake all sealed up and ready to go OR I could use my original intake and exhaust manifold transferred over so all the parts bolting to the intake will stay in original location but then you run the chance of something leaking or anything else bad happening. Swapping stuff may affect warranty, too. Thoughts, Experiences?
383 is the way I’m thinking so far
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One advantage of the fully dressed engine is that Blueprint Engines can run the engine on their test stand and give you a HP and Torque printout. That way Blueprint will be totally satisfied with the engine before they ship it. They can't do that without the intake manifold and carb. Both are good options. It all depends on what you are comfortable with.
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Originally Posted by ClothSeats
One advantage of the fully dressed engine is that Blueprint Engines can run the engine on their test stand and give you a HP and Torque printout. That way Blueprint will be totally satisfied with the engine before they ship it. They can't do that without the intake manifold and carb. Both are good options. It all depends on what you are comfortable with.
I get it……I am trying to shoot for a stock appearance at least on the upper part of the engine but if everything fits in original location I can live with that. I’m a life long AMC/AMX Javelin guy so not a Chevy expert but all my reading over the years left me with the impression that most small block parts fit all other small blocks. I DO know that dipstick is moved to pax side and no oil fill tube. Any gotchas I should be aware of? How would I handle the flywheel balance issue on the replacement engine…..Buy one that is neutrally balanced?
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Originally Posted by Nikolai122
IIRC weren't those called and sold as their "Target Master" engine brand name ? I put one for $1,600 CAD into a 75 Monza back in the mid eighties.
Taco Block. Target Master. It put the small shop builder out of the market. You couldn’t rebuild a 350 for what it cost to purchase a NEW engine from Chevrolet. Chevy dealerships were selling them to garages for $750 dollars. And it came with a warranty that independent shops couldn’t provide.

Some of us like a “seasoned” block for a starting point. Core shift and all that. Your average consumer doesn’t care. They just want to be up and running ASAP for as little as possible.

Can’t blame GM for addressing an issue.
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Originally Posted by DonBond
I get it……I am trying to shoot for a stock appearance at least on the upper part of the engine but if everything fits in original location I can live with that. I’m a life long AMC/AMX Javelin guy so not a Chevy expert but all my reading over the years left me with the impression that most small block parts fit all other small blocks. I DO know that dipstick is moved to pax side and no oil fill tube. Any gotchas I should be aware of? How would I handle the flywheel balance issue on the replacement engine…..Buy one that is neutrally balanced?
Your original intake manifold will bolt up to the Blueprint engine. Blueprint makes their own cylinder heads, but dimensionally they are the same as the original Chevy heads. Besides that, what items are affixed to your intake manifold that you are concerned about when it comes to compatibility with the Blueprint intake manifold? It might be best to give Blueprint a call on that.
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Originally Posted by ClothSeats
One advantage of the fully dressed engine is that Blueprint Engines can run the engine on their test stand and give you a HP and Torque printout. That way Blueprint will be totally satisfied with the engine before they ship it. They can't do that without the intake manifold and carb. Both are good options. It all depends on what you are comfortable with.
they will install the intake and carb and run it on the dyno even if you don’t buy a completely dressed engine that’s the way I bought mine from them
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Main concern now is ensuring adequate HOOD CLEARANCE. I have 1 report above that says ok with low profile air cleaner. This bit about raised exhaust ports .500………..What the hell is that about? Stock exh manifolds still fit?
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Originally Posted by DonBond
Main concern now is ensuring adequate HOOD CLEARANCE. I have 1 report above that says ok with low profile air cleaner. This bit about raised exhaust ports .500………..What the hell is that about? Stock exh manifolds still fit?
The exhaust ports are raised a half an inch to straighten out the port & allow for better exhaust flow. Your stock manifolds should fit and probably would not have any problems with the stock exhaust but if you’re alternator or AC compressor or anything else mounts to the exhaust manifold bolts, you may have to get a little creative and do some modifications there.
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Installed one in my 62 no clearance problem also i used the stock manifolds
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