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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 04:49 PM
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For the NCRS National I put the original dated 1965 Knock Offs on my 1966 coupe. I have tried a number of plans to get the knock offs off. No matter what I try I cannot get them off. Does anyone know of a better idea other then taking a Sledge Hammer?
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 04:55 PM
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Don't they have some sort of funky lead hammer to whack on those things????
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since they are oriinal, can we assume there is no pin being used? Or were they retrofitted for the retainer pin, and if so, has the pin been removed?

one other possibility, one you might not admit doing, but I will admit it: I was absent-mindedly trying to take the two rears off my car this past winter, got one off but was having a hard time getting the other to get turning, and I was whacking it good. Of course, I had been whacking it in the wrong direction, since I had just kept the coutner-clock direction programmed in my brain from doing the other side.

I finnally figured it out, but I had demolished my el correcto lead hammer by then

point being to check the "off - on" arrows on the spinner, since it is clock on one side and counter clock on the other
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 05:05 PM
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I have not tried a lead hammer yet but I have tried a sledge hammer.
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 05:06 PM
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Theses are original with NO PINS dated back to 1965 and my 1966 is very early production. It has a 427x450.
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 05:12 PM
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I found this hammer, like the name a lot!!!

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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 05:16 PM
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See I have a hammer like that one but my problem is how to hit it without messing up the knock off.
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Originally Posted by mosportgreen66
I have not tried a lead hammer yet but I have tried a sledge hammer.
uhhh, the lead hammer is supplied with the Kos because it won't damage the spinners (lead being a softer metal than chrome). I would not suggest using a regualr steel-headed sledge hammer

muncieman, that is similar to the lead hammer I bought after killing my correct one
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Ok Thanks guys I will go out and buy a repro lead hammer because I don't want to use the original.

Thanks.
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Ok Thanks guys I will go out and buy a repro lead hammer because I don't want to use the original.

Thanks.
While you are at it, you may want to look at a dead blow hammer. They have a rubberised head, and you can get varoius weights and handle lengths. I think I got a 20 oz. for mine.
Much much better than an original or repo. They are available at home depot or most other hardware stores.
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Mr. Snap-On has those hammers, the no bounce rubber deals, for at least 5 times more than Lowes or Home Depot, but how many times have they driven up in front of your shop?????????
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Originally Posted by mosportgreen66
For the NCRS National I put the original dated 1965 Knock Offs on my 1966 coupe. I have tried a number of plans to get the knock offs off. No matter what I try I cannot get them off. Does anyone know of a better idea other then taking a Sledge Hammer?
There is a special tool available that slips over the spinner and has a long handle which makes the KO's easy to remove.

I can't think of the guys name who makes it but one of our forum members will give you the name...

Gentelman Please.......
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 06:56 PM
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Dennis Portka guys, I just sold mine to a nice guy on the forum. Makes taking them off a breeze and saves your spinners and body work.
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Dennis Portka makes a nice wrench but it's expensive [think close to $300]when a lead hammer will do the same thing. I always coat the threads on mine with never-seize before putting them back on. Prevents galling and they tell me they actually lock tighter. Not sure about the dead blow having never used them. "do not use a sledge hammer on them or you will tear them up". Lead is softer then chrome so this works fine.
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Muncie man where did you find that hammer and how much does it weigh?
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Old Aug 21, 2004 | 08:35 AM
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Muncie man where did you find that hammer and how much does it weigh?
It might go against the grain to buy a Ford wrench!!!

http://performanceunlimited.com/cobravalley_tools
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Hey Guys "colo63sw" said that I should go out and buy the 20oz dead blow hammer because does the trick. Well, today I went and bought one. It does nothing. But I thank you all very much for all your help.

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I had a similar problem with removing one of my knock-offs, soon after I bought my 65 coupe. The guy I bought if from included a Portka KO wrench (just sold it on ebay). I could spin the front tires (with the car on the ground) with the Portka wrench and not budge the KO's. I also tried one of the dead blow hammers. The plastic cover tore up. The solution was to beat the heck out of the spinner with the lead hammer. I basically disintegrated a lead hammer, but got the wheel off. It had anti-seize compound on the wheel and no pins. After removing and putting them back on, I have not had a repeat problem, but do use serious blows to fasten and unfasten them. Knock off is an appropriate name because you have to knock the heck out of them.
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You need a muncie-man 6lb lead hammer from the "ford website" he lists in his post. 20 ounce anything just isn't going to touch it.
Have heard of people using a piece of old tire on the spinner before hitting it with a steel hammer but I've never tried this so won't go there. Only thing is no matter what you're swinging be super careful that you don't nick your car. That wouldn'b be a real good day for you. : cheers:
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Originally Posted by Jimbo64
You need a muncie-man 6lb lead hammer from the "ford website" he lists in his post. 20 ounce anything just isn't going to touch it.
Have heard of people using a piece of old tire on the spinner before hitting it with a steel hammer but I've never tried this so won't go there. Only thing is no matter what you're swinging be super careful that you don't nick your car. That wouldn'b be a real good day for you. : cheers:
You might get a roll of duct tape and tape up good the spinner leg you intend to whack if you do decide to use a sledge hammer.

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