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Old May 13, 2005 | 03:02 AM
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Been shopping for a remote radar detector system for my C4 and came across this.

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Wonder how long before we will see this here in the states.

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Old May 13, 2005 | 05:24 AM
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Wonder if it starts chasing you if you exceed the speed limit? I think I can out run that one.
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Old May 13, 2005 | 06:24 AM
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Well I guess this is a good idea. When you get a ticket you don’t have far to throw it.
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Old May 13, 2005 | 06:46 AM
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Well I guess this is a good idea. When you get a ticket you don’t have far to throw it.
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Old May 13, 2005 | 06:49 AM
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Valentine One. Best I've ever owned.
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The problem is it takes photos!
Then the officer sends you the ticket in the mail at his leisure. Pretty hard to outrun the mail man.
And of course detectors are illegal to sell and own here. They have detector detectors and get real nasty when they find you with one.
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Old May 13, 2005 | 07:54 AM
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Direct? I need a new detector, mine is from the 80's.
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Old May 13, 2005 | 08:21 AM
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Those have been around here for ages, the Netherlands is the mother of all speed traps. The cops now use remote operated cameras, cameras in small foldable campers, side bags on bicycles (so any roadside parked bicycle with side bags is suspect)

If there's a way to make the average car owner pay more than they already do in any way or form, they'll find it here first (the radar speed trap is a dutch invention by a guy named gatsonides, the company he started gatso, www.gatso.nl is now the worlds leader in radar speed traps)
It's so bad here, Jeremy Clarkston made a special show about it and was astounded by the mindboggling number of speedtraps

Radar detectors are prohibited here since last year so now they have a radar detector detector to catch people who still have one.....how sad

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The bastards. Just another way of leaching money out of us.
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Wonder if it starts chasing you if you exceed the speed limit? I think I can out run that one.


oh man, I now I need a big block!
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Originally Posted by RHD '68 L89
The problem is it takes photos!
Then the officer sends you the ticket in the mail at his leisure. Pretty hard to outrun the mail man.
And of course detectors are illegal to sell and own here. They have detector detectors and get real nasty when they find you with one.
I guess we'll have to get a detector dectoctor dectoctor.
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Old May 13, 2005 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by RHD '68 L89
They have detector detectors and get real nasty when they find you with one.
I have a friend in the Highway Patrol who told me that "Detector, detectors" are Urban Legend. He says when a pack of speeding cars approach he gives a blip of the gun, then goes after the car that slows down, because that one has a detector. Nothing fancy there, but he will tell the driver that he "Detected" their detector.
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Old May 13, 2005 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by 70vert
I guess we'll have to get a detector dectoctor dectoctor.

They actually have that technology now. The detector dectecor detects VG-2 sweeps(VG-2 detected oscillator leakage at 11.55Ghz), this is now dectectible by radar detectors and the leakage was fixed in almost all detectors, rendering VG-2 kinda useless. Now radar detector makers went to Spectre from Micro Stealth. Now there is Spectre I,II and III. OF course, now there are dectors that detect these as well. There is only one RD that I know of that is invisible to the new Spectre III of them and one that does the best shielding of it's signals against I and II. The Bell X50 is invisible to Spectre II and the valentine one does the best shielding against I and II.

Now you know... the rest of the storAY.
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Old May 13, 2005 | 11:29 AM
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I have a friend in the Highway Patrol who told me that "Detector, detectors" are Urban Legend. He says when a pack of speeding cars approach he gives a blip of the gun, then goes after the car that slows down, because that one has a detector. Nothing fancy there, but he will tell the driver that he "Detected" their detector.
Your friend is lying to you or is misinformed about the dectector detectors. I can show you a bunch of them made by companies in Canada and Australlia and now ones in the U.S. Just because he may not use them doesn't mean they don't exist. Also, what he is saying is that he is using POP mode radar(completely unreliable by the way due to the 67 millisecond burst of signal that could have bounced off a tree/person/other car/etc) then pulling over a person that hits thier brakes? I would love to see him try that one in court. It is unbelieveable what cops try and get away with nowadays. You have to witness and clock THE car you are giving the ticket to. You cannot use the excuse "he looked like he was keeping up with the other cars." That implies that the cop has been trained as a human speed detection device, which to my knowledge has never happened.

Now, unless you live in Australlia or drive an 18 wheeler in Canada somewhere, the chances of you getting pulled over for having a radar detector on are slim to none. The detection technology is more expensive and AFAIK there are only a few states that outlaw radar detectors.
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Old May 13, 2005 | 06:47 PM
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I moved back to the US, from Australia, in 1992. In 1991, the story was that the Australian police were starting to use devices that could detect an operating radar detector in a car. The story I heard was that if you were caught with a radar detector, they would confiscate the car. ...once again I don't know how true this is but that's what I heard (read??).

The technology of detecting a radar detector is pretty straightforward when the receiver is a superheterodyne receiver, and just about 100% of all receivers are superheterodyne receivers. I don't know what frequencies police radars operate, but lets say that for example they operate at 2 GHz, which is 2,000,000,000 Hz. The car mounted radar detector would then have its own internal oscillator operating at perhaps 2,000,005,000 Hz. The receiver has a mixer to mix the police radar signal with it's own internal oscillator frequency to porduce a difference frequency of 5,000 Hz. The receiver then amplifies he 5,000 Hz signal and uses it to drive the alerting horn/flashing light for the driver alert. Unfortunately, superheterodyne receivers also transmit a weak signal from their own internal oscillator. A police receiver that is looking for car's with radar detectors will be tuned to detect the mixer frequency and alert the police!!!

It takes a lot of technology to build a receiver that doesn't actually transmit it's own heterodyne frequency and thereby give it's presence away.

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Talking about radar reminds me of the time we were riding our bikes in the east cost of Thailand back in 89. Five of us were pulled over for speeding and the cops had a new radar gun (that they had no idea how to use) The cop said we were going 120kph, we argued with him for some time that there was no way we were going that slow, we were going at least 180.

Just one of many true stories with the men in uniform that I encountered in the past 20 years here in the land of smiles.
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The detector detectors are not a legend, they are real. Since last year a radar detector and a laser gun shield is prohibited here, the cops are actively scanning for signals from detecotrs and laser shields..so they are using detector detectors and they are VERY accurate at tracing you when you have a detector or radar shield. The fines are nasty and they impound all equipment in your car that is actively scanning or obstructing speed traps & laser probeing. If they have it here they have it in OZ also (most likely)
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