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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 06:55 PM
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Default Roadster roll bars

Went to the glen last week and leaning more to puttin these in.
How hard are they to install?
Can you take them out easily? Or they have to be left in?
Where to get? How much?

The kind for being able to take a Vert on the race track.
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Techno
Went to the glen last week and leaning more to puttin these in.
How hard are they to install?
Can you take them out easily? Or they have to be left in?
Where to get? How much?

The kind for being able to take a Vert on the race track.
they ain't easy at all. You need to get a pro to do it and you need to make sure its the right kind of pipe and the right diameter. Better go more than the specs require because they keep getting more strict.

Cars 3001-4000 lbs. use 1.750 x 0.120 DOM/seamless/alloy
(no ERW allowed)
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 10:50 PM
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I should have been more clear. I don't want to race just take my car on the track. The roll bar and helmet thing.
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Old Sep 30, 2005 | 02:11 AM
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I was thinking of putting some hoops behind my seat for safety until my grandfather was killed in an accident. He had some bars welded against the rear window of his pickup for security, was rear ended (not that hard) but the bar hit him in the back of the head causing brain damage. With a roll bar and a helmit obviously you are safest but I don't want to have to wear a helmit at all times. Not trying to be depressing but just food for thought on the placement of anything metal near your head.

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Old Sep 30, 2005 | 02:38 AM
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a roll cage is like a seatbelt they save more lives then they take, sorry about your grampa

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Old Sep 30, 2005 | 03:08 AM
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Originally Posted by AndreG
I was thinking of putting some hoops behind my seat for safety until my grandfather was killed in an accident. He had some bars welded against the rear window of his pickup for security, was rear ended (not that hard) but the bar hit him in the back of the head causing brain damage. With a roll bar and a helmit obviously you are safest but I don't want to have to wear a helmit at all times. Not trying to be depressing but just food for thought on the placement of anything metal near your head.

-Andre
thats terrible....Im sorry about your grandfather

so I would look into getting it professionally done.....so that your as safe as can be.

there are strict safety requirements here in Aus..if you do it yourself I think it has to be professionally checked and passed.
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Old Sep 30, 2005 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Techno
I should have been more clear. I don't want to race just take my car on the track. The roll bar and helmet thing.
You need a approved roll bar to get your car on the track in a HPDE or timed runs.

You might be able to find some type of event that will let you drive around at a reduced pace just for fun. The burnout dude from Canada with the white vette did Mosport without a helmet.

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Old Sep 30, 2005 | 04:49 PM
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I did my own with the same intent - just an additional level of safety on the track as well a place for harness attachment. I quickly realized that without cutting the decklid the bars were WAY to close to my head for comfort, not to mention I would lose a lot of valuable leg room. Additionally I added C4 seats which have a much higher head rest (in addition to being MUCH more supportive and a LOT better looking) that will hopefully provide a cushion between my head and the bars in the even of an on-street accident.

I am thinking of modifying the bars to provide for a removable forward brace to get some significant safety support for those few track days I have yet to make it too (new wife, new job, new house, kid on the way...yada yada yada). Here's pics.



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Old Sep 30, 2005 | 07:03 PM
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Default It's tricky...

First, find out what the sactioning body or club you plan to run with requires. Most road course clubs require a five point or better in any 'vert running the slower street car groups, and a full cage over a certain level of power and tire combo. The hoop type shown above are not accepted with the folks I run with unless there is a brace at the top (down to the frame) so it won't fold.

I have approval to use a five point that bolts onto a set of stand-offs welded to the frame (using Norvals design - flat plates with four bolts) that I can unbolt and then re-install my stock hatch and top. They both need to be removed to make room for the bars and a cut up hatch installed (I got a used one) that fits around the bar once it's in. It's the least damage to the car, and I that way I can run it. I'll also install a hardtop (bolted down) when I'm on track.

Hope this helps.

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Old Sep 30, 2005 | 11:12 PM
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Thanks for the nice comments.

I just love the way those hoops look and I really like the idea of being able to install some good belts. Wanting to keep the original seats in my car and it being driven on the street 99.9% of the time I would be afraid to mount the hoops given my cars general use and configuration. Just glad to hear others are thinking of the potential danger in a street accident without the use of a hard hat. Don't get me wrong, I'm not Mr safety, I took a bike over and embankment nearing triple digits last summer busting myself into pieces and am now driving a car for fun which is prone to catching fire at random intervals given continued high fuel pressure problems. At least I suppose I can make the excuse (to myself) that I will see my eventual demise coming given the inevitable pending disaster of the fuel pressure fed fire in front of rather me than worrying about the SUV grocery getter sneaking up on me from behind.

I understand the appeal of the hoops, they look awesome but should be padded for everyday use if not wearing a helmit. I like how the plexiglass insert fits in there. Nice touch!

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Old Oct 1, 2005 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by 71roadster
I did my own with the same intent - just an additional level of safety on the track as well a place for harness attachment. I quickly realized that without cutting the decklid the bars were WAY to close to my head for comfort, not to mention I would lose a lot of valuable leg room. Additionally I added C4 seats which have a much higher head rest (in addition to being MUCH more supportive and a LOT better looking) that will hopefully provide a cushion between my head and the bars in the even of an on-street accident.

I am thinking of modifying the bars to provide for a removable forward brace to get some significant safety support for those few track days I have yet to make it too (new wife, new job, new house, kid on the way...yada yada yada). Here's pics.



71roadster did you do the custom work on your rear deck lid? nice job
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