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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 01:11 PM
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My dad's 82 Vette was in a bad accident a while ago, and is currently being fixed. We noticed with the hood off that the engine was cocked to one side, the front of the engine pointing more towards the passenger side. Also it looks like it may be off height-wise. The frame was pulled using laser equipment and is straight, the K-member was replaced, and the core support is straight. We don't know what else could be causing this. The body shop measured from the frame rails to the engine mounts, they are uneven from the frame rail. Is this just how they were from the factory? Is it possible that someone could have used two motor mounts from the same side of the car when the previous owner originally swapped in the ZZ4 engine, like right hand motor mounts on both sides or something like that? Here are a couple pics:




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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 01:32 PM
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the motors are offset to the passenger side
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 01:35 PM
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My first thought is if the tansmission is centered in the tunnel. From the factory, most were closer to the right side of the tunnel. I know of a few that repositioned their motor mounts to make the rear of the tranny be more centered in the tunnel. I swapped my auto for a manual transmission and I centered the rear mount to make the driveshaft be more in line with the differential.
So I would check the allignment of the entire drivetrain before I worried about anything. If the engine is causing an alignment problem, it would be easy to move a motor mount on the frame to get it to line up better. I hope this helps with your problem.
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Birdie2000


This is NORMAL , Mine is the same way.
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by BerniesVette
My first thought is if the tansmission is centered in the tunnel. From the factory, most were closer to the right side of the tunnel. I know of a few that repositioned their motor mounts to make the rear of the tranny be more centered in the tunnel. I swapped my auto for a manual transmission and I centered the rear mount to make the driveshaft be more in line with the differential.
So I would check the allignment of the entire drivetrain before I worried about anything. If the engine is causing an alignment problem, it would be easy to move a motor mount on the frame to get it to line up better. I hope this helps with your problem.
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Your rearend chunk is offset to the passenger side buy 1/2 to 1" as well
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by MEGALADON
This is NORMAL , Mine is the same way.

That is as normal as normal can be.
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Wow, never woulda thought it would be offset like that.

Thanks guys, appreciate it! Puts some fears to rest.
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As you can see in this pic, the driver's side mount is longer than the passenger's side mount.

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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 02:33 PM
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That pic shows me perfectly. Thanks!
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 03:59 PM
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Anybody know why they are offset like that?

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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 04:39 PM
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I also saw that with a BB and AC there is a shim between the block and the drivers side engine mount that tilts the engine over towards the passenger side. Anyone know why?
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by texaswilkins
Anybody know why they are offset like that?

Bill
1) To off set the weight of the driver for more even handling.
2) For more clearance for things like shifter linkage.
3) To better line up with the pinion gear in the differential.

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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 03:43 AM
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COOL. When I stuck the blower on top of my engine, the hole I cut in the hood had to be about 1" off of center toward the passenger side... For a long time, I've been wondering what the HECK I did wrong???

Nice to know WHY it's that way...
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 06:43 AM
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I agree with everyone who has said that the engine is offset to the passenger side, BUT

If you look at the pic, this engine is "cocked" crooked. The front is to the passengers side, while the rear is to the drivers side.

Also, it looks to me like the drivers side of the engine is higher than the passengers side. Something doesn't look right here, at least to my "old eyes". Chuck
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 06:45 AM
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they're all crooked if you havent read the replies yet
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 10:38 AM
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Dosen't look right to me. If mine is crooked it is not that crooked.
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Looking at the original photo again, I think the uneven look to the engine is caused by the fenders being out of whack. There is a split in the middle of the cowl piece and it looks like the passenger fender is not sitting where it should be. The exposed radiator indicates that the front end fiberglass got punched pretty hard. Just my $.02



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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 12:33 PM
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With headers on, you barely have clearance on that left side as it is. Any more that direction and it'd be nigh impossible!
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Birdie2000
Wow, never woulda thought it would be offset like that.

Thanks guys, appreciate it! Puts some fears to rest.
Just to be on the safe side I would check your motor mounts its does look a little lower then most to the passenger side?
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Could it be an optical illusion caused by the breather cap and valve covers. To me the valve covers look almost even but the cap throws it out. The cap is in a different place than the more stock valve covers.
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