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Old May 16, 2006 | 12:18 PM
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Has anybody used this welder? I can get a pretty good deal on one and was wondering what you guys thought. I just want it for welding up brackets and maybe an exhaust or two. Seems like it would good enough to be spreader bar mounts and such.
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Old May 16, 2006 | 12:31 PM
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This welder can not be converted to gas, you'll want to use gas for cleaner welds. The next up model from Northern is $359 and the gas kit is $82.99. Hobart, Lincoln, and Miller all offer good home size machines.

Shop around at Home Depot for a complete package in one box (gas kit, helmet, regulator, etc.) for a better deal. Also, try your local welding supply, they might have a good deal and you can build a relationship with them which can be very helpful down the road when you need info or advice since you will be buying supplies from them anyway.
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Old May 16, 2006 | 12:37 PM
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Steer clear of any unit that can't be converted to gas. While flux core is OK for thicker metals such as 3/16 it produces more splatter (a real pain when welding on or under a car).

Look for a gas sheild unit. I deal with Garland Welding supply however I picked up my 125 volt Miller MIG unit used but bought my Plasma cutter new from them. They might have some deals going on regarding a new MIG one though.

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Garland ,,is that local to you ???
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Old May 16, 2006 | 01:49 PM
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Your more than welcome to borrow my Millermatic 135 or just bring it by and I'll weld it. I owe you a favor anyway.
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Comp - yes local to DFW TX
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Avoid no-gas units. I have a 110v Clarke with the gas conversion kit that I really like. My dad has the 220v Hobart Handler - that's a really nice welder.
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Avoid no-gas units. I have a 110v Clarke with the gas conversion kit that I really like. My dad has the 220v Hobart Handler - that's a really nice welder.
A combination of gas and flux core makes the best weld.
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Thanks for the info! I guess I will keep looking.
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Originally Posted by jpatrick636
A combination of gas and flux core makes the best weld.
That's not exactly recommended. I get great welds from gas with solid-core wire for gas.
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When talking about a 110-115v vs 220-225v it looks as though you are only get a 1/16" more out of the 220 (3/16 mild steel vs. 1/4 (220). Is it worth the money to get the extra 1/16 of inch out of the 220, when we are talking a basic home shop?
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Originally Posted by MoneyPit
When talking about a 110-115v vs 220-225v it looks as though you are only get a 1/16" more out of the 220 (3/16 mild steel vs. 1/4 (220). Is it worth the money to get the extra 1/16 of inch out of the 220, when we are talking a basic home shop?
i think part of it is the duty cycle,,,how long it can run at higher amp's
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Yeah, I kinda thought that. But is it worth the money?
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Originally Posted by MoneyPit
Yeah, I kinda thought that. But is it worth the money?
if you can afford it ,,i'd do it ,,,,
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Originally Posted by jpatrick636
A combination of gas and flux core makes the best weld.
Flux sucks , I have better welds with solid wire and no gas.
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I bought a Hobart 140 that already has the gas kit last year from this guy off ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/HOBART-HANDLER-1...QQcmdZViewItem

Great dealer! He had the best price and shipped the next business day. The Hobart has worked perfectly. I also bought a miller auto-dimming helmet from the same dealer and I highly recommend an auto-dimming helmet.
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Originally Posted by MoneyPit
Yeah, I kinda thought that. But is it worth the money?
I bought the 220VAC for the added power needed when welding thicker aluminum. Since aluminum absorbers heat faster you might need the extra power if you anticipate working with it.
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The link Zwede posted is a good price when you consider it comes with the gas kit. I'd go for that and then weld up a cart since it would be a good practice.

I had a spare helmet so just bought the auto tint lens at Garland.

The 110V unit will do most any job you'll need up to 3/16. For 3/16 I did use flux core for a bit better penetration on my coilover brackets however for all other jobs and welding on the car directly I use gas shield. Flux wire was recommended by Garland Welding supply for 3/16and it worked great.

Now all I need is a TIG, and small Mill/Lathe combo, convert the spare bedroom to a machine shop and so on and so on...
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