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Old May 31, 2006 | 11:29 AM
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got my s/s cragars for my 71 BB and took em to my tire guy and he refused to mount them. said that with the washers and spacers, the first time i thrash it there's the very real possibility that they'll come off the car. so what wheels are out there BESIDES TT II's that'll get me the classic look i want without spacers of course.. thanks guys
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got my s/s cragars for my 71 BB and took em to my tire guy and he refused to mount them. said that with the washers and spacers, the first time i thrash it there's the very real possibility that they'll come off the car. so what wheels are out there BESIDES TT II's that'll get me the classic look i want without spacers of course.. thanks guys


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Sounds like some kind of to me.

What specifically is he talking about?

Cragars has been used for years........




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You need adapters, not spacers.
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Old May 31, 2006 | 11:49 AM
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Sounds like a liability issue. He didn't want you to threaten a lawsuit if the wheels came off the thing. Will he mount the tires on the rims? That much done, you can put the wheels/tires on the car yourself.
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Old May 31, 2006 | 11:53 AM
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Go to someone who know's what they're doing.
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Old May 31, 2006 | 11:54 AM
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You need adapters, not spacers.
from lookin at what i have, adapters and spacers are one and the same. i called a tech at summit and he said to clearance the wheels all i need to do is grind a few thousandths of the caliper.
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He was exagerating, however you need to be sure you have the stud length to run spacers. I believe, if I remember correctly, that you are supposed to have at least 1" of stud available past the spacer. It's possible you might need longer studs, but I don't know what thickness of spacer your Cragars require. Adapters work well and are much safer than spacers, but I believe minimum thickness on those is 1", so your tires and wheels are going to be sticking out quite a bit. Rallye Wheels look awfully sharp, in my opinion.
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Originally Posted by 71redskin
from lookin at what i have, adapters and spacers are one and the same. i called a tech at summit and he said to clearance the wheels all i need to do is grind a few thousandths of the caliper.
Adapters bolt the existing studs and have studs in them for the wheel. Spacers are just a disc with holes on them for the studs to go through.

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Funny he didn't recomend longer studs.
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Originally Posted by rcread
He was exagerating, however you need to be sure you have the stud length to run spacers. I believe, if I remember correctly, that you are supposed to have at least 1" of stud available past the spacer. It's possible you might need longer studs, but I don't know what thickness of spacer your Cragars require. Adapters work well and are much safer than spacers, but I believe minimum thickness on those is 1", so your tires and wheels are going to be sticking out quite a bit. Rallye Wheels look awfully sharp, in my opinion.
i like the look of the rallye's too but i lost a hubdap so instead of gettin the heads ported and polished, i put the cash into cragars. my rotors are stock so if longer studs are needed, how are they replaced. the adaptors are 1/2 thick.
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Originally Posted by rcread
Adapters bolt the existing studs and have studs in them for the wheel. Spacers are just a disc with holes on them for the studs to go through.

Wheel adapter


Wheel spacer
then i have spacers...
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Originally Posted by 71redskin
from lookin at what i have, adapters and spacers are one and the same. i called a tech at summit and he said to clearance the wheels all i need to do is grind a few thousandths of the caliper.
I don't think that is a good idea Go with adapters or longer studs
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I've been running with Cragar SS's for over three years.

No caliper shaving/grinding.

No extra long bolts.

Just a 1/2" aluminum disc (spacer) that fits over the bolts behind the Cragar rims.

I check the nuts periodically and make sure they're torqued to ~95-100 lb-ft.

Never had a problem yet.

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You shouldn't have a problem using the spacers as long as you use the long shank lug nuts instead of an acorn type nut.
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Originally Posted by Tele_Man
I've been running with Cragar SS's for over three years.

No caliper shaving/grinding.

No extra long bolts.

Just a 1/2" aluminum disc (spacer) that fits over the bolts behind the Cragar rims.

I check the nuts periodically and make sure they're torqued to ~95-100 lb-ft.

Never had a problem yet.








back in the day...you know; the 70's...

The pic?




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Old May 31, 2006 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Tele_Man
I've been running with Cragar SS's for over three years.

No caliper shaving/grinding.

No extra long bolts.

Just a 1/2" aluminum disc (spacer) that fits over the bolts behind the Cragar rims.

I check the nuts periodically and make sure they're torqued to ~95-100 lb-ft.

Never had a problem yet.

those wheels are gorgeous tele....so i have all i need to put the cragars on without lengthening the studs... 1/2 spacers, long nuts with washers.
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Originally Posted by BIGsteve
You shouldn't have a problem using the spacers as long as you use the long shank lug nuts instead of an acorn type nut.
got those too... i'll have em on by the weekend...will post pics soon...thanks guys and i truly value all your suggestions and opinions.. ron
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Awesome wheels, the knock-offs are a nice touch. Can't wait to get a set for mine.
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Hello,
I had similar issues with my 1986 and putting on year 2000 rims.
Here is what the adapters look like installed. The adapters are
the way to go, not the spacers.

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Those three-pointed center caps are tricky to work with. I lost two of them before I figured out how to tighten them correctly. You also have to leave them just loose enough to twist out of the way so you can tighten the fifth lug nut. So, it's a bit of a hassle, but I love the way they look.
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