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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 03:42 PM
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Anyone hear of this? They etch your VIN into your windows. I guess this helps in identifying your car if its stolen. Additionally, there are some insurance companies that offer additional savings if this is done.

Reason I ask is this... We have an employee car show at work next Monday to benefit the United Way. Of course I signed up and donated my $15 for registration. This year they are having Liberty Mutual on site to do this etching for an additional donation to United Way. Should I get it done?

Here's what they say:

"A new feature to the Car Show this year is Liberty Mutual will be present to VIN etch your car for a donation. All donations will benefit the United Way Campaign. PROTECT YOUR CAR WITH A SCRATCH -- Did you know that having your Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) etched into your car windows is one of the best ways to prevent your car from being stolen? And, VIN etching your car may qualify you for additional savings on your auto insurance. Bring a copy of your current auto insurance declaration page to guarantee accurate VIN Information.
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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 04:50 PM
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i know on the recent truck i purchased the etching was
$199.00 extra.
so this could be a great deal for you
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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 05:41 PM
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You can get a kit online to do it for $30.
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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 06:06 PM
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Vin etching is an income producer for car dealerships. Its benefit in reducing theft is somewhat circumspect. Etching the vin on the glass might stop someone from stealing the car to use the glass in another vehicle. I somehow doubt that glass is a major cause of car theft.

If they are out for a joy ride the vin is not altered and in most cases the plates are not even removed and replaced. It is just a drive and dump. Do you think they care if the glass has the vin # on it?

If they are stealing it to strip for parts the glass is probably not the most important piece and won't stop them from stealing it. If they steal it at night they won't know it is etched until they start dismantling it and then it is too late.

Liberty Mutual can get the vin number off the vin plate which is much more accurate than the insurance policy. They want to look at the insurance policy to see if they can steal you business from your current carrier by offering you a better deal.

All in all you have nothing to lose except a couple of numbers scratched into your glass.
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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 07:44 PM
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My Buick had the etched glass when I bought it in 1991.
It also had a VIN sticker on every panel of the vehicle.
This car was stolen once (dumazz ME dropped the keys next to the car).
It was a cruise and dump .. stole a few items in the car ... broke EVERY
electrical switch (lots in Buick Park Ave).
Finally recovered the car after more than 2 weeks.

I wouldn't do it to my vette, as it would never be in a position to be stolen.

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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by NHvette

I wouldn't do it to my vette, as it would never be in a position to be stolen.


Yea... thats what I figure.. I dont park anywhere, and I dont even have a top on the car.. so this may be pointless.
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Old Sep 16, 2006 | 12:24 AM
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I have done this many times at our dealership, you get the vin printed on a piece of what looks like some sort of transfer paper. it sticks to the glass and has little holes in it on the numbers and letters. you dab an etching (acid)soloution on it and when you remove the paper the vin is etched permantly in the glass. I would never do this on my vintage vette astro glass also one slip up by the person doing it and your glass is ruined. I have several bottles of the etching compound. definitley not something you would want a mad wife/girlfriend to get a hold of
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Old Sep 16, 2006 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeRags
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I wouldn't do it to my vette, as it would never be in a position to be stolen.

Yea... thats what I figure.. I dont park anywhere, and I dont even have a top on the car.. so this may be pointless.
In most classic car thefts, the cars are parked in the owners locked garage. Sure gives you that warm and fuzzy "safe" feeling, don't it?
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Originally Posted by stinkray
In most classic car thefts, the cars are parked in the owners locked garage.
Source? I'm not familiar with this one...
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Source? I'm not familiar with this one...
It WOULD make sense that a higher proportion of classic cars are stolen from driveways than cars that are driven more frequently...
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Originally Posted by Shark Racer
It WOULD make sense that a higher proportion of classic cars are stolen from driveways than cars that are driven more frequently...
Driveways, maybe...but locked garages?
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Old Sep 17, 2006 | 09:42 PM
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Looks like it aint gonna happen. my stupid *** ate s**t on my dirt bike today and broke my clavicle...... no work tomorrow, and definatley no employee car show....
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Dude...that sux! Did that a few years back on a dirt bike too. Hit a rut in a trail and it thew me over the bars when the wheel slammed to one side.
Drove home like 4 hours to the hospital by my house since I heard horror stories about the rinkie dink wisconsin hospital we were close to from the guys that I was riding with.
Your gonna be slow going for a few days...
Do you have that strap deal on to keep your sholders back?
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Hey Joe,

I was reading your post and experienced dais vu because I was reading a work email this morn that talked just the vin etching and car show. Apparently we both work for the same company. Too bad you wont be coming to work this morn and have to miss the show.
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Originally Posted by Scootin_Z
Dude...that sux! Did that a few years back on a dirt bike too. Hit a rut in a trail and it thew me over the bars when the wheel slammed to one side.
Drove home like 4 hours to the hospital by my house since I heard horror stories about the rinkie dink wisconsin hospital we were close to from the guys that I was riding with.
Your gonna be slow going for a few days...
Do you have that strap deal on to keep your sholders back?

HA! that would be the figure-8, and no... thankfully. the doc says the chances of that thing working vs. having to wear it for 6 weeks without removing it is crap... it will heal with the bone not aligned.
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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by gorrie16
Hey Joe,

I was reading your post and experienced dais vu because I was reading a work email this morn that talked just the vin etching and car show. Apparently we both work for the same company. Too bad you wont be coming to work this morn and have to miss the show.

HS? yea, im upset. i just started working there in june. i was really lookinh forward to the show!!!
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Originally Posted by JoeRags
HS? yea, im upset. i just started working there in june. i was really lookinh forward to the show!!!

Yup HS, I'm in bld 3. I started working here back in Jan.
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Originally Posted by Red70vette
Vin etching is an income producer for car dealerships. Its benefit in reducing theft is somewhat circumspect. Etching the vin on the glass might stop someone from stealing the car to use the glass in another vehicle. I somehow doubt that glass is a major cause of car theft.

If they are out for a joy ride the vin is not altered and in most cases the plates are not even removed and replaced. It is just a drive and dump. Do you think they care if the glass has the vin # on it?

If they are stealing it to strip for parts the glass is probably not the most important piece and won't stop them from stealing it. If they steal it at night they won't know it is etched until they start dismantling it and then it is too late.

Liberty Mutual can get the vin number off the vin plate which is much more accurate than the insurance policy. They want to look at the insurance policy to see if they can steal you business from your current carrier by offering you a better deal.

All in all you have nothing to lose except a couple of numbers scratched into your glass.
I believe the VIN etching is more for the parts end of it, as well as the re-tagging end of it. Re-tagging a car with a new ViN plate isnt that hard, changing all the glass to match the VIN is. Leaving the glass alone is an automatic tip off to either a prospective buyer or the first cop who stops the car.
In many jurisdictions it is the police who supervise auto body shops as well as junk yards. The more parts with VIN #'s on them the easier the job is.
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PS I just bought a 2006 trailblazer a few months ago and the VIN etching was free with a minor discount from the insurance company.
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