engine ID pad (pic)
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From: Some Beautiful Place Sunny and Amazing One
Originally Posted by LT4Coupe
How does this look? Its from a 71 on EBay. I'm not looking
to buy, just to increase my knowledge
to buy, just to increase my knowledge
See this:
http://vetteworks.tripod.com/1971SPECS.html
That Vette should have a 350 c.i., 270 hp engine with manual transmission.
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From: Some Beautiful Place Sunny and Amazing One
Originally Posted by c3dreamer
See this:
http://vetteworks.tripod.com/1971SPECS.html
That Vette should have a 350 c.i., 270 hp engine with manual transmission (CJL Code).
http://vetteworks.tripod.com/1971SPECS.html
That Vette should have a 350 c.i., 270 hp engine with manual transmission (CJL Code).
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From: mississauga ON
What is really "throwing" me, is the c at the begining of the
vin sequence. I notice that some 71s have it, and some don't.
I'm starting to think it was only used on early 71s.
Very confusing!
vin sequence. I notice that some 71s have it, and some don't.
I'm starting to think it was only used on early 71s.
Very confusing!
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From: Foxfield CO 1970 Convertible
No way those numbers are legit. Are you sure it's not an '81?? It's probably an engine from a passenger car.
'71s Serial Numbers: 194371S100001 through 194371S121801
Here's what a '71 should look like:
'71s Serial Numbers: 194371S100001 through 194371S121801
Here's what a '71 should look like:
Last edited by Z-man; Oct 1, 2006 at 01:42 AM.
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From: Syracuse NY
Originally Posted by Mike Ward
It really doesn't matter what's there now, that's possibly a restamped pad, and not a very good one at that.
There should be no 'grinding marks' going from side to side on a pad .
There should be no 'grinding marks' going from side to side on a pad .
I'm just asking.
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For 1970, pad stamps were 70S4XXXXX. For early 1971, stamps continued with the same format, 71S1XXXXX. Starting in Sep 70 sometime 71s changed to C11S1XXXXX. That would be correct for this car. I'm no expert and it's tough to tell from pictures. My guess is that the side to side is from sanding and I'm voting for it's original.
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From: Shoreline WA
Originally Posted by Mike Ward
The pad was not painted to start with, so there would be no need to sand it. If the owner was trying to make it pretty and shiny, he screwed himself good.
C11S114491 V0330CJL
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Originally Posted by Carl Granquist
I have good reason to believe mine is original, but repainted just before I bought it. So, my pad has a nice glossy orange coat of paint. I can read the numbers clearly though. If I wanted it to be "correct" then how would a person go about removing the paint and not leave scratches, etc.?
Paint remover! If it's really thick and stubborn DOT3 brake fluid will do the trick. Be very careful as it it will eat any paint anywhere!
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From: Syracuse NY
Originally Posted by Mike Ward
The pad was not painted to start with, so there would be no need to sand it. If the owner was trying to make it pretty and shiny, he screwed himself good.
In my humble opinion that pad is original as are the numbers stamped on it.As to whether it is from 71 vette, I'll leave that to the numbers guys.
Try the NCRS.
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Pad looks good to me. Obviously painted at some point and perhaps the paint was removed with sandpaper. The CJL code after the second set of nukmbers indicates that it is a base engine 350 270 HP with a Rochester quardrajet and a 4Speed. This is typically not the engine combo you would want to fake with such a high caliber stamp. There is just not enough money in the base engine option. If it was a big block I would be a little more concerned.
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From: Some Beautiful Place Sunny and Amazing One
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Your engine should have also the numbers 3970010. That imply a 350 c.i. engine. CJL code are only for 1971 Chevrolet 350 c.i. engines.
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From: Southbound
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Originally Posted by mstanton
For 1970, pad stamps were 70S4XXXXX. For early 1971, stamps continued with the same format, 71S1XXXXX. Starting in Sep 70 sometime 71s changed to C11S1XXXXX. That would be correct for this car. I'm no expert and it's tough to tell from pictures. My guess is that the side to side is from sanding and I'm voting for it's original.
There was a strike at St. Louis from about mid-September 1970 through nearly the end of November. My finacee's '71 got caught in it. Casting numbers and VIN all point to what should have been a late September build date, but her car ended up with December 1 build date due to the strike. Her block is not stamped with a "C" code. After the strike, '71 blocks began to be stamped the with "C" characters. The '71 Registry has additonal information regarding block stampings. The NCRS Judging Manual also helps.
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From: Foxfield CO 1970 Convertible
Originally Posted by Easy Mike
There was a strike at St. Louis from about mid-September 1970 through nearly the end of November. My finacee's '71 got caught in it. Casting numbers and VIN all point to what should have been a late September build date, but her car ended up with December 1 build date due to the strike. Her block is not stamped with a "C" code. After the strike, '71 blocks began to be stamped the with "C" characters. The '71 Registry has additonal information regarding block stampings. The NCRS Judging Manual also helps.
Aha! So that's why there's confusion. Good info...
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From: YANKEES UNIVERSE 70 454-LS5 500 ft-lbs Torque
Originally Posted by Red70vette
Pad looks good to me. Obviously painted at some point and perhaps the paint was removed with sandpaper. The CJL code after the second set of nukmbers indicates that it is a base engine 350 270 HP with a Rochester quardrajet and a 4Speed. This is typically not the engine combo you would want to fake with such a high caliber stamp. There is just not enough money in the base engine option. If it was a big block I would be a little more concerned.
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From: Southbound
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Originally Posted by Amature
I have a similar question on my 1970. What does the V0202CTD indicate on the engine pad besides 350, 300hp? Also what does Chevrolet 828 mean on the VIN plate? Thanks.
