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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 06:29 PM
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What exactly does that mean? Can someone give an example?

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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 06:34 PM
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i take a loan out for 5,000 and i put my vette up for collateral ..... if you dont pay on the loan, they take the car......... it's the banks until the loan is paid...but you still drive it/etc...

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Originally Posted by Jughead
What exactly does that mean? Can someone give an example?

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i know that here in CA, when you register a car for the first time, you have to include the lender information on the form. It's then your responsibility to get this off when the loan is paid off. If you sell the car, the local DMV is supposed to check with the lender to make sure that it has been paid off and will not transfer the ownership until this is done. Unlike homes or other real estate, I think that this is how liens work on cars. You can't realistically withold salary or sue for a car since you'd probably walk away or have it repossesed first.
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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 06:51 PM
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A lean means that the vehicle is used as colateral on a loan. Before the vehicle can be sold to a new owner, the Lien Holder (bank) must sign a lein reliese. A lein Reliese is the banks verification that the vehicle has been paid off, and the vehicle now has a "clear title".
I would stay away from any vehicle that has a lein on the title unless you can definatly verify with the lein holder listed on the title that the vehicle has been paid off. Don't trust the seller until you confirm with the bank.
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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 07:10 PM
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[B]HERE YA GO........[/B] i'm in the auto business & do this for a living.
When you buy a car new or used & you take out a loan, the bank requires a "LIEN" be posted on the title. This is protect their interest in the car they have financed. That means that you can not sell the car untill the lein has been satisfied with a "LIEN RELEASE" in NY it's called a 901 it states that the bank's security interest in the vehicle has be satisfied ( that the loan has been paid ). DO NOT PURCHASE ANY VEHICLE with a LIEN on it unless you have an ORIGINAL SIGNED, SEALED OR STAMPED letter from the bank, stating the loan is paid without that, there is no proof that the person selling it owns it free & clear. This is what is refered to a clear title. Some people after they pay off a car apply for a new clear title, others dont, it doesnt matter as long as there is a letter of satisfaction. Hope this helps.......


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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 08:04 PM
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Oh Oh...what have you done Jughead??
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could be a mechanics lein........some states allow mechanics to file liens on cars for non payment of repair services
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I though if there was a lien on the car. The bank will not release the title until the lein is payed off. If someone has a title and it states a lein. Shouldn't you have the letter from the bank showing title is clear, or call the bank on the title to be sure the title is clear.
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Oh Oh...what have you done Jughead??


Nothing......yet. I haven't been in any trouble with my wife in a while, it's time to stir the pot.

I've been reading about all the suggestions when buying a used car and never really understood what a lien was. I didn't know you could put your car up as collateral on a loan.

If the current owner says no liens, how can you check?
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If a bank is the lienholder, their name will be printed on the pink slip (here in Cali), sort of like they are co-owners of the car. The bank will also HOLD the pink slip until the loan is paid off. Once the loan is paid off the bank will literally sign off the pink slip, letting the world know the loan has been paid, they will then send the signed pink slip to the owner, who thereafter has free and clear title. Only the owner's signature is now needed to transfer the car.
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Originally Posted by Jughead
Nothing......yet. I haven't been in any trouble with my wife in a while, it's time to stir the pot.

I've been reading about all the suggestions when buying a used car and never really understood what a lien was. I didn't know you could put your car up as collateral on a loan.

If the current owner says no liens, how can you check?
Under the lein section of the title (Front of title) there will be nothing filled in there.

As dad always said Pay cash, because the best car is a payed for car.
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In most states, it's like California. The owner gets the title with the lienholder having signed the document once the loan is paid. There are some states, however, where the owner keeps the title, even if there is a lien placed on the vehicle.He might be showing you a title with no lien, but there might be one recorded with the county or state (depending on the state). Have DMV run the VIN# to be safe.
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I had a different situation with a lien on the '68 I just purchased, the state actually had a lien on the vehicle due to the fact that the owner was arrested for a DUI and part of the court order was to surrender the plates for that vehicle, which he never did... I had alot of paperwork and runing around town for a couple of weeks to get this cleared up...I wish it was just a bank lien... probably would've been easier to get the title..
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Originally Posted by randyredleg
In most states, it's like California. The owner gets the title with the lienholder having signed the document once the loan is paid. There are some states, however, where the owner keeps the title, even if there is a lien placed on the vehicle.He might be showing you a title with no lien, but there might be one recorded with the county or state (depending on the state). Have DMV run the VIN# to be safe.
IN NEW YORK, you get to hold your title , & if there is a lien on it it's typed on the front, sometimes there are multiple liens.
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Originally Posted by bobs77vet
could be a mechanics lein........some states allow mechanics to file liens on cars for non payment of repair services


A lein is basically means the person who has posseion of the car doesnt quite own it 100% for one rason or another.
Which means they can not legally sell it
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A lein is basically means the person who has posseion of the car doesnt quite own it 100% for one rason or another.
Which means they can not legally sell it
That's not quite accurate, but it's close enough. The lienholder has an interest in the collateral property, but not ownership.
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Originally Posted by 427SIXPACK
IN NEW YORK, you get to hold your title , & if there is a lien on it it's typed on the front, sometimes there are multiple liens.
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Texas is usually the same depending on the Lien holder.
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For example....when I bought my 72 for 14K.....we had to go to the seller's credit union and pay off his 22K balance. I wrote his credit union a check for 14K ... he wrote his credit union a check for 8K and handed me a "lien free" title, a bill of sale showing 14K and the keys!
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Originally Posted by Jughead
Nothing......yet. I haven't been in any trouble with my wife in a while, it's time to stir the pot.

I've been reading about all the suggestions when buying a used car and never really understood what a lien was. I didn't know you could put your car up as collateral on a loan.

If the current owner says no liens, how can you check?
I financed my very 1st car at a dealership thru Ford Credit... paid it off in 3 years and got a letter and MV901 slip from Ford Credit.

I never bothered to have my title rewritten without the lien notice and DMV says it doesn't matter.

The car got flooded a month ago with 26k miles.



Lien release:
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That's not quite accurate, but it's close enough. The lienholder has an interest in the collateral property, but not ownership.
I see you are a better lawyer than your avatar
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