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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 02:23 PM
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Can I weld that pot metal back together? The tab broke off of mine while loosening on of the bolts.
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it's aluminium, dirty aluminium but it can be welded
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Originally Posted by Twin_Turbo
it's aluminium, dirty aluminium but it can be welded
Is it aluminum, or is it pot/white metal, or are they all the same thing? I have often wondered about this!
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 03:46 PM
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Pot metal used in cars has a lot of zinc in it and any number/combinations of other metals, whatever was cheap and handy at the time. There are no standards like other metals and alloys.

The difficulty arises in the very low melting point of the potmetal around 700°F

There is a special alloy rod with a melting point below 400°F that makes it fairly easy to repair.

Will post when I find the file.
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 03:48 PM
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i had mine welded many years ago. They finally coroded a few years ago and i replaced them with used units in good condition.
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 03:49 PM
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http://www.muggyweld.com/potmetal.html for pot metal

If it is in fact dirty aluminum maybe JBWeld would work?
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I tried the Muggy weld for this very job and it was not anything like advertised. I had to play with it a while to get it to bite in. I was repairing the tapped bosses the cover screws to and really had to build it up and then use a helicoil to fix. The repair appears good but the units have been rebuild and are sitting in storage so who knows if they'll hold up when back in the car?
I wasn't too impressed with the product but the web site demos look pretty easy.
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It is aluminum. Pot metal is mostly zinc. I have seen the headlight frames repaired by attaching a plate and glassing over the repair. If done correctly, it is a very strong joint.
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Just noticed that at least three screw holes are stripped in the cover. I'm starting to think my car was owned my 350lb linebacker/
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Most larger welding suppliers carry aluminum flux coated brazing rod. The kind I have has a bright blue flux coating, but must be kept sealed until used.
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 07:10 PM
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i tried everything i could to weld those brackets...i ended up giving up and jb welding the two pieces together with a 3rd piece placed on backside for strength.....so far so good
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Originally Posted by BBShark
It is aluminum....
I've always heard these are pot metal. Years ago they could not be welded. These days, with advances in welding technology, I'm told they can be welded by someone who knows what he/she is doing.

My advice would be to take the assembly to a competent welding shop and let them have a look at it. They'll be able to tell you whether they can, or cannot, make your repairs.
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Originally Posted by Easy Mike
I've always heard these are pot metal. Years ago they could not be welded.

Mine were heli-arc (i think) welded back in 1981. They lasted until i replaced them about 2 years ago.

Welds were still strong. The mounting tabs where it connects to the metal V bar between the lights and engine had corroded.
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Fixed my front tab with a couple pieces of 1/4" aluminum ...
all tapped and screwed.
My rear slots were elongated, too .... just used large washers for this.

Looking from underneath at front tab:
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I jb welded mine
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Originally Posted by gtr1999
I tried the Muggy weld for this very job and it was not anything like advertised. I had to play with it a while to get it to bite in. I was repairing the tapped bosses the cover screws to and really had to build it up and then use a helicoil to fix. The repair appears good but the units have been rebuild and are sitting in storage so who knows if they'll hold up when back in the car?
I wasn't too impressed with the product but the web site demos look pretty easy.
I've tried this product with similar results. The aluminum brazing rod that you can use with a propane torch sold at Harbor Freight works better than this stuff.

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