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Old Dec 12, 2006 | 08:14 PM
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I'v adjusted the tilt all the way out but the window still tilt inward to far. Anyone have any ideas on how to correct this problem? Could i have put something back in wrong?

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Old Dec 12, 2006 | 08:44 PM
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I know your feeling! My 81 has the same problem in the other direction! I have spent hours adjusting and have never gotten it perfect. Mine wants to jump outside the blowout clip when you close it..When someone figures out the answer I would like to know too! Have replaced most every part, begining to think my car might have been twisted at some time in its life!
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I followed the instructions in the AIM and had pretty good results. Here is another article on window adjustment, maybe this could help.

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Old Dec 13, 2006 | 12:13 PM
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The AIM has a good page for window adjustment using the factory techniques. A recent issue of Corvette Enthusiast also had a how-to article on door glass adjustment.
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Old Dec 13, 2006 | 12:24 PM
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It's REALLY tough to try to tell you how to do it on the Forum.

It's like trying to tell someone how to tie a "Four-In-Hand" knot in their necktie on the phone if they've never worn a tie before.

Go to your AIM and go to your Chassis Service Manual. There are explicit directions in there to tell you how to move the glass fore and aft, up and down, rotation, and in and out.

LOTS of different adjustments.

I spent DAYS getting the glass adjusted on my 69 convertible. Chuck
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Old Dec 13, 2006 | 12:43 PM
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I'v adjusted the window all the way out but it still tilts too far inward. I''m wondering if i put something back together wrong? I looked at 2 different manuals and it looks like everything is right but I'm not sure. I took the windows out to clean the tracks and replace all the worn parts the nput it back in.
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I'd then look at the bottom of the front and rear tracks. If they can be moved "in", that cants the glass "out". Chuck
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I don't know if this will help, but you need the next page also. If you read these directions, they tell you to loosen the bolts and etc, then grab the glass and move it to the correct position, tighten everything down. The glass won't adjust just cause you move the bolts, they hold it once it is ajusted,also notice that the bolt holding the weatherstrip is one of the ones it says to loosen. Maybe you havenot loosen all that you needed to. I took my vert '72s doors apart and took out all of the channels for cleanning about three years ago and got them back in to 90% fit after a 2 days of trying(still need to replace top's weatherstrip).

Like I said, it may not help cause you may have already done all this, but I thought I would try to help clear it up some more. And Chuck, it is easy to tell a guy how to tie a 4-in-hand over the phone, just tell him to call his wife (or someone else's) cause they all seem to know how to do it even though they don't wear them.



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My wife would not only tell you how to tie the tie, she'd tell you that you were wearing the wrong one, too.
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I feel your pain. I tried for several days to get mine lined up before I just said **** it, I just won't drive in the rain.

My problem is the tilt of the glass from front to rear. It is too high in the rear, not high enough in the front top corner, but I have no more adjustment or don't know where to find the adjustment. I used the links posted here and my AIM.
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Originally Posted by Ak. Mal
My problem is the tilt of the glass from front to rear. It is too high in the rear, not high enough in the front top corner.
I was having the same problem and I fixed it by doing this. I had the two bolts(labeled A) that hold the short horizonal channel just loose enough to be able to force it to move by hand, but not so loose it moved on it's own. then with the glass all the way up, I grabbed the front and back edges and jerked it into position, then tighten the bolts back.
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Originally Posted by srosa75
My wife would not only tell you how to tie the tie, she'd tell you that you were wearing the wrong one, too.
any one of mine woulda tied it tight enough to bulge your eyes out and then say "whats the matter hunny". That door glass problem can be a mother,,, best to leave it alone unless you have much patience and time, what I found was to just sit and look at it and try to visualize which adjustment does what, a shop manual/AIM helps greatly too, good luck. Peace,,,Moosie
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 11:38 AM
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My wife would not only tell you how to tie the tie, she'd tell you that you were wearing the wrong one, too.
Would she also complain about the dry-clean job on your shirt?
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I has the same problem. I got the drivers window perfect. I have to adjust the passangers. The one thing I can tell you is you need to put the door panel on when testing the window. It makes a difference.

Window tilt Lossen two bolts (Middle of door) adjust by rotating glass until a constant distance is gained between front edge of glass and the winshield pillar

Window rolls up to far Loosen front and rear stop screws located on tracks at top. Roll glass up & down until it properly seats in roof weatherstrip. Move front & rear stops until they contact window rollers

Gap between window forward edge and winshield pillar too large or small Loosen three bolts On the top of the forward track you will see four bolts the inner two are the ones I am talking about. The third bolt is at the bottom of the forward track. This bolt attaches the track to the door skin. Move glass towards windshield pillar strip until it properly seats in the stripping. Retighten bolts

Glass too far outboard or inboard Loosen 5 bolts. These bolts are located at the top of the door (front track the outer two bolts). Rear track 2 bolts and Rear anti rattle cushion bolt. Move top edge of glass inboard until it is properly seated against roof rail weatherstrip. Tighten Track bolts, then move felt strip against window and tighten.

Remember to put door panel on after you make these adjustments. It does take time and patience.

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Originally Posted by 72GACRZR
I was having the same problem and I fixed it by doing this. I had the two bolts(labeled A) that hold the short horizonal channel just loose enough to be able to force it to move by hand, but not so loose it moved on it's own. then with the glass all the way up, I grabbed the front and back edges and jerked it into position, then tighten the bolts back.
My real problem is that if I get the front of the window lined up with the windshield, the back of the window is not vertical on the rear weatherstrip. The glass is actually tipped back and the top corner hits the body.

Sorry, I'm not trying to hijack, but I've started threads about door glass alignment, and searched the archives, and so far, this one has some of the best advice.
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I have come to the conclusion that the best way is to take a rock and smash out both windows. Take it to the automotive glass guy, break out your check book and let them replace the glass and adjust.
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Originally Posted by Ak. Mal
My real problem is that if I get the front of the window lined up with the windshield, the back of the window is not vertical on the rear weatherstrip. The glass is actually tipped back and the top corner hits the body.

Sorry, I'm not trying to hijack, but I've started threads about door glass alignment, and searched the archives, and so far, this one has some of the best advice.
I think this is a window glass ajustment thread with a side bar of tie tying, your problem has me thinking that the short channell with bolts "A" in the first diagramm needs to be higher in at the backside of the car and lower in front, it would be a very small amount if you can ajust it that way. I remember that mine had a few times when the movement I needed was so slight that it was almost impossible to make.It has been three years since I was inside my vert's doors and I can't remember. I will try to check my AIM when I get home tonight.

One thing you can try if you have the door apart is to remove the glass from the rollers and channels and just hold it up in place to see if it will actually fit, this would eliminate wrong glass or body alignment problems.
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 06:01 PM
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Thank you all for the replys and info I think the window is adjusted all the way out but still tilts too far inward. This the orginal glass that was in the car. I just removed it cleaned it replaced the rollers and gear for the power window motor and put it back together. It worked find before i started in on it. Maybe I did something wrong. thanks again everyone
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You understand that that the tilt in and out is based on the glass pivoting at the top of the door. Moving the adjustment towards the outside of the car makes the top of the window move in. If you can, look how the bottom of the window inside the door moves the last inch when going up.

If you have the fore/aft adjustment done here's a trick. Get a bodyman’s pull hook from a paint and body supply. Remove the two door panel screws at the top. You can reach down in the window channel with the hook and pull the inner door panel up and over the locating tabs. This will give you access to the top adjustments on the front and rear guide channels. Make your adjustments, (go easy on the tightening, the female threads are fragile) and reinstall the top of the door panel. This saves a lot of time when you are adjusting and testing and adjusting and testing.
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Crash80
I have come to the conclusion that the best way is to take a rock and smash out both windows. Take it to the automotive glass guy, break out your check book and let them replace the glass and adjust.
That sounds like a pretty decent plan if you can get them to give you a flat rate before starting the job

This has been a frustrating experience for me too. You would think that there are only so many adjustments that can be made and when you have run out of them --

I am considering taking it to a Corvette only shop after the time that I have spent with it.
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