Dilemma and a rant...
Burning Brakes
Joined: Jul 2006
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From: Mexico NY
We all know a "steve"
I hurts but "steve needs to go for certain"
It souds like "steve" needs to seek theropy.
After doing so perhaps he can be in you life again... after a few years of stability.
It souds like "steve" needs to seek theropy.
After doing so perhaps he can be in you life again... after a few years of stability.
Le Mans Master
Joined: Mar 2004
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From: Little Rock AR
Your friend is like one of your children. You do not leave a gun where the kids could get a hold of it.
You should not leave the keys where he could get hold of them. Take the keys away and learn from the poor judgement. You ain't gonna fix this guy, you just need to help honest people stay honest.
-Mark.
You should not leave the keys where he could get hold of them. Take the keys away and learn from the poor judgement. You ain't gonna fix this guy, you just need to help honest people stay honest.
-Mark.
Melting Slicks
Joined: Dec 2000
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From: mesa,az
some times buddys from the old days never really get up to speed. You just have to decide if he's worth the problems, if not. adios. If he is, sigh, bitch at him and be more carful with your keys.
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Racer
Joined: Nov 2006
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From: Arizona
OK, here's how it went this morning. Steve showed up at the house this morning wanting to work, the wife turns to me and said "take a deep breath and count to 10,000.", grabbed her keys and answered the door to let him in, she continued out to her car and left, she's so upset she didn't even want to look at him.
I confront him about the driving the vette while we were out of town, he proceeded to act like it was no big deal, "I took the cheapest car you've got, whats the big deal?" The cheapest car? You mean the least expensive? I then explain, it doesn't matter if it was a VW bug, if you don't ask, you don't take! Also thanks for taking the only one WITHOUT insurance, I then ask, "do you what could have happened if you would have wrecked it?" Well the conversation went downhill from there.
In the end, Steve is no longer doing any work for me. I've had the locks and the alarm code changed. I won't go into the details of how I'm such an a$$ hole, and how his son isn't going to have a good Christmas this year because he doesn't have enough money for gifts. I guess it will never surprise me how irresponsible some people can be.
Thanks for all the replies...
I confront him about the driving the vette while we were out of town, he proceeded to act like it was no big deal, "I took the cheapest car you've got, whats the big deal?" The cheapest car? You mean the least expensive? I then explain, it doesn't matter if it was a VW bug, if you don't ask, you don't take! Also thanks for taking the only one WITHOUT insurance, I then ask, "do you what could have happened if you would have wrecked it?" Well the conversation went downhill from there.
In the end, Steve is no longer doing any work for me. I've had the locks and the alarm code changed. I won't go into the details of how I'm such an a$$ hole, and how his son isn't going to have a good Christmas this year because he doesn't have enough money for gifts. I guess it will never surprise me how irresponsible some people can be.
Thanks for all the replies...
Team Owner
Joined: Aug 2006
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From: Columbia Missouri
Him not being able to buy gifts for his kids has NOTHING to do with you. If he's not enough of an adult to get a real job, even at a Taco Bell which are always hiring...then he has problems that go beyond you not giving him a few hours of work. He has to face a reality where people work for what they have...not borrow what other people have worked to get.
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Drifting
Joined: May 2006
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From: Circleville Ohio
Vader vette
I have had my 75 low miles (42k)for two years in March I still have not put 1000 miles on in in A year . My plan would be (supervised) sand the whole bottom of the car Paint it Have him shine the rims reallll good and then fire him . But Im COLD about my corvette I really dont even like my girl taking it but she got the p---y Fill the blanks.
Melting Slicks
Joined: Nov 2002
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From: Fort Pierce Florida
I HATE people that think just because you have money that you owe them something. My gf's dad's like that and I can't stand being around him listening to how rich people did this and I'm like this because rich people don't do this. If the SOB would go out and do something besides complain then maybe he'd be better off. I'm by no means rich, but at 27 my annual salary is probably twice what his has ever been. 
Anyway, you did the right thing. I've had long time friends that I've had to cut loose because they were dragging me down the wrong road or I couldn't trust them. Just remember you still have to watch your back.
Anyway, you did the right thing. I've had long time friends that I've had to cut loose because they were dragging me down the wrong road or I couldn't trust them. Just remember you still have to watch your back.
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Racer
Joined: Nov 2006
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From: Arizona
Lon Wayne,
I hear ya, I test drove it then it was delivered and put away, I haven't moved it since. Now it has another 1000 miles.
I asked the wife if she wanted to drive it, she said "honey that's your toy, it's not for me to use for transportation".
SuprJames,
I've been getting that it seems like my whole life, when I was 16 I bought my first car, a '76 vette and all I heard was "it must be nice to have rich parents", I paid for it with money I earned. My parents would have NEVER bought me such a car. So I've worked hard to have nice things and learn to not care what other people think.
I hear ya, I test drove it then it was delivered and put away, I haven't moved it since. Now it has another 1000 miles.
I asked the wife if she wanted to drive it, she said "honey that's your toy, it's not for me to use for transportation".SuprJames,
I've been getting that it seems like my whole life, when I was 16 I bought my first car, a '76 vette and all I heard was "it must be nice to have rich parents", I paid for it with money I earned. My parents would have NEVER bought me such a car. So I've worked hard to have nice things and learn to not care what other people think.
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Racer
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From: Arizona
Him not being able to buy gifts for his kids has NOTHING to do with you. If he's not enough of an adult to get a real job, even at a Taco Bell which are always hiring...then he has problems that go beyond you not giving him a few hours of work. He has to face a reality where people work for what they have...not borrow what other people have worked to get.
Melting Slicks
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From: Madison Alabama
Glad you had a heart to heart with Steve; sorry it went down hill but sometimes that happens.
Also glad you changed the locks/alarm code but given the situation you might want to take extra measures - a lock/alarm will keep an honest man out but they only slow down a thief.
Also glad you changed the locks/alarm code but given the situation you might want to take extra measures - a lock/alarm will keep an honest man out but they only slow down a thief.
Team Owner
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From: Columbia Missouri
Glad you had a heart to heart with Steve; sorry it went down hill but sometimes that happens.
Also glad you changed the locks/alarm code but given the situation you might want to take extra measures - a lock/alarm will keep an honest man out but they only slow down a thief.
Also glad you changed the locks/alarm code but given the situation you might want to take extra measures - a lock/alarm will keep an honest man out but they only slow down a thief.
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Instructor
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From: NC
What he did was totally irresponsible and his attitude of "whats the big deal" is further proof that he is has never been held accountable for his actions. You have held him accountable. Bravo.
And as for his kids not having anything for Christmas-don't let that statement or anything else he said bother you. He is trying to dump a load of guilt on you, don't fall for it. You are in the right.
And as for his kids not having anything for Christmas-don't let that statement or anything else he said bother you. He is trying to dump a load of guilt on you, don't fall for it. You are in the right.
Instructor
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From: EINDHOVEN, NETHERLANDS NETHERLANDS
i´m alex my true friends i can count with my fingers of my right hand an two fingers i don´t use it till today . true friends are the people who are present went you are fallin into the deepest hole that you never been see ever. so i don´t have the pleassure to present me to you but if it means something ,you no needs steve´s in your life the only thing that you need is a true friens who saves you when you need it and for the future don´t let that more stevies became to your life kick out from your life. nice to read that you have protetetc your life against the bastards who don´t have never your mercy one salute .go straight and then things become to be better sure.
Race Director
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From: Kansas City, MO ...I'd like to go fishing and catch a fishstick. That'd be convenient. - Mitch Hedberg
I had a friend like that. In the end, he stiffed me for rent in the middle of a 1 year lease and the landlord refused to work with me. There was no point in sueing him for the money, he would never have it and he couldn't hold a job long enough to garnish his wages. In the end I told him I wanted my money (knowing I'd never see it) and that our friendship was over.
Sometimes it's best to just walk away. Take the keys from your former friend, tell him not to call you again and leave it at that.
Sometimes it's best to just walk away. Take the keys from your former friend, tell him not to call you again and leave it at that.
Team Owner
Joined: Aug 2006
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From: Columbia Missouri
I had a friend like that. In the end, he stiffed me for rent in the middle of a 1 year lease and the landlord refused to work with me. There was no point in sueing him for the money, he would never have it and he couldn't hold a job long enough to garnish his wages. In the end I told him I wanted my money (knowing I'd never see it) and that our friendship was over.
Sometimes it's best to just walk away. Take the keys from your former friend, tell him not to call you again and leave it at that.
Sometimes it's best to just walk away. Take the keys from your former friend, tell him not to call you again and leave it at that.
Hey Ak. mal, I know a guy who will pull out all of his finger nails and toe nails one by one for $10 each so long as he keeps them when he's done.
J/K. I don't know him anymore.
Burning Brakes
Joined: Feb 2005
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From: wash. dc
Exactly. If you really want to help him, sit down with him and tell him you know what happened and that he has violated your trust. Whether you keep him as a "casual" friend or not, is up to you. Tell him you hope he can learn from this and change for the better, but it's too late for you and that you won't be "needing his services" any more.
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