Supervette77,
The only reason he probably didn't get pulled over was that it still has the old plate on it, it's no good but it had a plate. As for the car keys, he tore through my desk and filing cabinet and found them in a folder.

Anyways as I said I changed the locks and alarm code, so I'm at least sleeping well. I've come to realize that he'll probably never change so it's better that I parted ways now before something bad would have happened.

Thanks for all the replies, it makes me feel better to know that everyone else came to the same conclusion that I did, and that I was not making a "big deal" about nothing...

Merry Christmas everyone...

 

I forgot to ask...does this ex-bud of yours even have his own car?

 

Well I'm glad you asked, 'cause I didn't want to bring it up and make more drama, but since you asked here's the answer.

I bought him a Honda Civic 4-door about a year ago, while I was out of town and he was out joy riding my vette, he sold his car to a person that I know. This person called me this afternoon and told me about how he had bought the car from Steve (this is a good one), he went to do the title & registration to find that there is a lean on the car, I told him that I bought the car and had paid cash and gave it to Steve, how could there be a lean?

So we come to find out what Steve did, it's called a "car title loan", I don't know if you've heard of them but WOW!! What a rip off, Steve borrowed $600 against the car and has been making the minimum payment, he now owes over $2000 on the car, so I don't know what's going to happen but I do know he doesn't have the money to pay it off, so to me it sounds like a crime has been committed. Hope he doesn't waste his phone call on me for bail!! I've washed my hands of him...

 

Its obvius he has no respect for you and no regaurd for you or your famalies safety ( If he got into an accident you would most likely be the one that gets sued, you and your family would suffer) You owe it to your family to let this "friend" go. The second or third chance you give him may cause more permanent damage. Sux sometimes to be an adult and have to give up your child hood friends. Good luck

 

Damn, he went through your desk drawer and file cabinet and found your keys and goes on a 1000 mile joyride. What a friend he is.

Yeah, I have heard of a car title loan. Legalized loan sharks.

 

Not to get it on with another forum member and I dont know where you studied law but you're wrong. This gentleman took my car and I have witnesses who saw him driving it. I also have statements from the individual saying he used it. Pretty tight case even here in liberal NY. I'd have liked all my cases to be that simple and straight forward. Giving a guy keys to the garage which is where the keys to the vette were in relation to specific duties he's to perform in no way in the world implies the ability to use the car. Sorry but thats the law. We also have another law here called misapplication of property. In NY he would be charged with both unauthorized use of a vehicle and misapplication of property, misdemeanors and grand larceny auto,felony. As I stated he would need statements from the witnesses who saw Steve in the car to further this case. Not pressing charges because of what the DA might or might do is one one of the big failures of the legal sytem thats the fault of too many weak knee'd crime victims. And why are witnesses only useful in felonies? Doesnt make any sense. If the car was wrapped up and someone injured or used in the commision of a crime during the joyride then pusher might have had no choice but to press charges to protect himself.
ESU

 

Pusher,
isnt this the car in the story you told a few weeks ago that brought tears to my eyes? Havent you been searching for a C3 for a while and finally found this one and your wife bought it for you on the sneak and had it delivered to you?? I was so busy banging heads with Topless75 I forgot the original story. Uhhh, what did you wind up getting your wife for Christmas by the way as payback for the vette lol???
ESU

 

With all due respect, most of the police I know have little knowledge of the law (or I should say "all laws"). My brother-in-law, who has been a cop for over a year, had NO idea it was legal in our state to carry a gun, loaded and in a holster, in your glovebox without a concealed weapons permit (you can't carry it on your person, but you can have it in your glovebox, briefcase, etc). Hearing this mis-information from a cop really opened my eyes. I'd like to know how many people get hauled in for "crimes" that don't exist!

You are very correct in stating the law however, in this situation, which is the only situation I'm discussing, the owner does not have enough evidence to file a police report and make it stick. He has an admission from the "suspect", however do you really think the suspect is going to repeat that admission to the cop that shows up to charge him? Yeah, right...

It still comes down to the "he said, she said" issue. It would be very difficult to charge/prosecute unless there was something more solid.

Oh, and where did you study law, Mr. ESU? The police academy ain't exactly law school.

 

Careful man...you won't like how this ends...calling a guy out like this.

 

Duck! A n00b fight.

 

Most Police officers I know hold some form of a higher learning degree in Law Enforcement, and most Law Enforcement agencies require an amount of college credit hours of new applicants to the force.

May we know where you studied law Mr. Topless75???

 

WOW, dont the topless 75 guy remind me of a former member here, but at that time he was from Fla. and held a gin drink in his hand. Betcha if this bickering keeps up it'll get locked, SO, IBTL,,
Peace,,,Moosie

 

Topless, i am guessing you AIN'T a lawer

 

...and maybe his brother-in-law is a "rent-a-cop".....

 

I watched Police Academy twice.

 

Which one? I like 6 the best.

 

I just watched the first & second one.

 

Was it while you were staying at a Holiday Inn? Did you see Topless while you were there?

 

You're correct, the police academy isnt law school but then again neither is watching CSI Miami or Perry Mason depending how old you are. I will put my academy training in law and my 20 years plus experience up against anything you have under your belt. I'm glad you admitted that i was correct in stating the law, I'd hate to think all my training was a waste. Also if you had paid attention to what I said I mentioned that the cooperation of Pushers witnesses would be helpful although not completely necessary for the successful prosecition of this case. This is not a he said she said, pusher has witnesses, he probably has documentation on the start mileage of the car, he also mentioned his shop having cameras so their might be video evidence of this CRIME taking place, plus statements by the PERP, what more do you want. Again I dont know how many collars you've made but I wouldnt have a problem making this one and seeing it through to a successful prosecution. A lot of primae facia evidence here, plenty enough to make probable cause for an arrest. Statements, witnesses, video, sounds like a slam dunk to me. Look for this case on the next episode of CSI you watch.
ESU

 

Thx Dr Jay.
ESU