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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 10:33 PM
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The car is a 1969 coupe with the 427/435hp motor. I have owned this car for 13 years and have the tank sticker and owner history. The car was built on Feb. 14th 1969 (Valentines day) and delivered to President Chevrolet in Quincy Maine. The car spent only 2 years in Maine and then was in El Paso, TX until I purchased it and it has been in Scottsdale since. The birdcage and the frame are in excellent shape with no rust. The interior was restored with Al Knoch interior and the exterior was repainted. All of the suspension has been gone through also. Mileage is 86,000
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411 BRIGHT BLUE INTERIOR 972 CAN-AM WHITE
L71 427/435 HP ENGINE A31 POWER WINDOWS
K66 TRANSISTOR IGNITION C50 REAR DEFROST
M21 CLOSE RATIO 4-SPEED N14 SIDE EXHAUST
G31 POSITRATION 4:11 N37 TILT-TELESCOPIC
A01 TINTD GLASS J50 POWER BRAKES

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Motor: Cast# 3693512 Date: A__9 Assembly Date T0204LR (Has Vin. # on the pad)
Transmission Cast# P9B05B Date P9B05B (Has Vin stamped also)
Rear End Date 2FB12188W 4:11
Carbs Front (3902353) and rear (3902353) are correct, center carb is a replacement but I have the original (3940929) I don’t know if it can be rebuilt
Intake 3937797
Distributor: K66 Transistor Ignition 11111928 Date: 8L26 11/26/1968
Original dated Rally Wheels
Original Jack
Original Blue T-Top covers
Missing:
A.I.R System Exhaust manifolds are non A.I.R and are from a 67

NON-MATCHING: Starter, Alternator, Water Pump, Fan, and Master Cylinder

My question to the forum is if I was to add the AIR system and the other non matching components with the correct date codes would that add more value to the car than the cost of the parts. I am just trying to see if I can justify the expense. I am not trying to get it judged by NCRS or Bloomington, although I think it would have a good score.
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 10:54 PM
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I don't know...I have a similar car, a '69 roadster, black w/bright blue interior, 427/435 auto, PW, PS, PB with everything original or date correct.

But I don't have a lick of the smog equipment, not even exhaust manifolds, running headers.

I'm not going to spend any money on re-smogging it.

Steve
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 11:02 PM
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69FASTFUN,

That is a question I often ask myself. As I have a car with about the same incorrect items situation. The prices for finding these correct original items is going to be somewhat costly, but to me, I personally believe that the most money paid for these cars will be those that have all components correct with as close to originally known, for date coded pieces.

I have 2 '71 LS6 coupes, one has incorrect date coded exhaust manifolds, improper, replacement fan clutch, replacement vacumn advance cannister, the other car has incorrect starter and missing A.I.R system, but correct original manifolds. I have been searching for about 5 years for these pieces. Part of the fun with these cars is the hunt.
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 02:13 AM
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Nothing wrong with a 435 car especially with a 4.11. The only concern to me is the engine. At 80+ K mileage it`s close to overhaul. Why worry over minor details, are you going to put it in your living room? This NCRS crap is just that, crap. Most of them would be jelious anyway because they dont have a 435 Vette. To me a fast car {original 435/427} is worth 10 of those low HP put together non original NCRS papered trailer Queens. Besides if they cant see the numbers they wont look at it anyway as they definately will not crawl around under a car. I have a nearly identical car except it`s yellow with a black interior but a 1968 with 28 K for milage. I through the air pump away nearly 40 years ago. Solid lifter high HP 427`s are worth a whole bunch of Kukurans or whatever. Also they are one extremely fast SOB with that 6500 red line.

Wally Knoch

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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 07:25 AM
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Check the sticker again. I would bet it's Quincy Massachusetts rather than Maine.
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by 69FASTFUN
My question to the forum is if I was to add the AIR system and the other non matching components with the correct date codes would that add more value to the car than the cost of the parts. I am just trying to see if I can justify the expense. I am not trying to get it judged by NCRS or Bloomington, although I think it would have a good score.
I think adding the smog system and replaceing non matching parts on an already very original car will add to the overall value.....will it be equal to the cost I don't think anyone can say.
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by 69FASTFUN
My question to the forum is if I was to add the AIR system and the other non matching components with the correct date codes would that add more value to the car than the cost of the parts. I am just trying to see if I can justify the expense. I am not trying to get it judged by NCRS or Bloomington, although I think it would have a good score.
If you are not getting it judged It won't add to the value. What will add to the value considerably is installing the correct parts and getting it judged. With your original documentation and good judging sheets the value will increase quite a bit. I would try to collect the parts you need now, even if you don't intall them, as they are skyrocketing in price and becoming extremely hard to find in useable condition.
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Originally Posted by 63mako
If you are not getting it judged It won't add to the value. What will add to the value considerably is installing the correct parts and getting it judged. With your original documentation and good judging sheets the value will increase quite a bit. I would try to collect the parts you need now, even if you don't intall them, as they are skyrocketing in price and becoming extremely hard to find in useable condition.




Buy those parts now. Regardless of your car going up in value an equal amount (I think it will go up more) you can always re-sell them for more money next year.

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Originally Posted by 69FASTFUN
...My question to the forum is if I was to add the AIR system and the other non matching components with the correct date codes would that add more value to the car than the cost of the parts....
Probably not add value.

Suggestion: Have the car flight judged without the AIR and see what she scores. The points deduction for the missing AIR may not keep you from a flight award.

After judging, it would be up to you whether the cost of the correct parts would be worth the potential points gain.

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Originally Posted by 69L46vert
Check the sticker again. I would bet it's Quincy Massachusetts rather than Maine.

You are right, I thought MA was Maine but it is Massachuetts.

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