Just wondering?

 

I've wondered myself.

 

aren't they hedman?

 

I believe they are made by Holley, and are the same thing as Flowtech.

 

I was thinking hedman. If they were made by hooker (holley) I would think they'd be a little pricier.

They're hard to beat for the price, though. Freaking $80 for a pair?

 

Doesn't matter. There's a reason for private labels on products, the manufacturers don't want their name on those products. Because the products suck! They don't want to be associated with poor quality products. You get what you pay for.

 

I bought a set of them and they are fine. The welds were good and the flange is not super thin. That said it is not a set of hookers. For 80 bucks I figured if they lasted my a year or 2 I'd have a good reason to get side pipes down the road.

 

 

I see we have someone here who compares quality with price!
Must suck to wear Tommy Hilfigure, only to know they are made in Ski Lanka with Wrangler!!!!!!!!!

 

yeah i've always been happy with summit's prices for their own products. i also use their famshafts, no problem. i'm thinking of buying their heads for my next build.

 

I've got summit's cam and lifters and their headers on, too. Workin great so far! Got my cragar soft 8s from them and got free shipping on those heavy sobs!

 

i kind of agree. while they may not "suck", the quality is still not on par with a high quality, brand name component. i have used several pairs of the jegs/summit shorty headers on my car over the years. the flanges have been thinner than optimal and they all seem to crack where the primaries go into the collector after a few years.
just my $.02

 

I've used many "Summit" brand parts on my car, vacuum resevoir, valve cover breather, air cleaner assembly and air filter top, chrome water neck, but never anything important. I used their valve cover gaskets for a few hundred miles and they allowed oil to leak onto my header, causing a fire. Fortunately I was able to easily put it out. So I had to step up to the good quality gaskets. FYI, the thick soft rubber Fel Pro gaskets work perfectly. Not a drop.

I am employed by a certain electronics retailer who has their own private brand of televisions. Those televisions are made by a certain manufacturer who actually makes good quality long lasting televisions, at least the ones with their name on it. The generic ones that they make for my employer are sh*t. The picture quality is crap and not only do almost all of them break within the first year, a disturbingly high percentage of them are defective out of the box. I will buy generic cables and cases from my company, but never would I buy something as expensive as a television under the private label. It would cost me money in the long run. As for the Summit heads and cams, maybe they'll work great or maybe something as simple as a retaining clip will fail, causing catastrophic damage to your engine. As for the headers, it's not such a big deal, but don't expect thick walled tubing, rust resistance and durability.

 

Private label stuff can be excellent value for the money...sometimes not. To get a private label price, you are giving up something. Without specific knowledge otherwise, I would suspect the Summit headers would be made with thinner guage metal and flanges...not bad quality, but the cost savings has to come from somewhere.

Many things I'm happy to get a private label product...others I'm willing to pay the difference, and doing your homework you can often find the name brand for the same price.

 

Material cost are pretty much the same no matter what or where as the commodity markets drive it. Labor and shipping are always another matter. If the delta on cost is significant, it has to come from somewhere in the process and material is one area - all other made equal by location of manufacture.

 

Look at the Edelbrock intakes and the Professional Products intakes.
I'll never pay for the Edelbrock name again!
I got a beautiful Polished PP intake for $120, Edelbrock is $216!
$96 savings bought me a heavy duty timing chain cover for $26 verses
Comp Cams for $140, hardened pushrods, but I did buy a Cloyes true roller timing chain.
You are paying for a name, just know who makes what for who.
Did you ever notice BFG radial tires never have a sale yet sell "blems" for a very nice reduced price? They all have a no name outlet.

 

Where is the no name outlet with the very nice reduced price for the BFG's?

 

aside from price the difference, the edlebrock is cast in california while the PP is cast in china. some people may not care that the chinease that make these parts are only paid $10-12 a day so long as they get a good price. just aside from the spotty quality control, so the people who import stuff from china make 100% or more (sometimes ALOT more) profit on their products while American or even non-communist countries make do with 25-50% profit.
everyone is entitled to make a buck but do you want to spend your hard earned dollar on the backs of people who have next to nothing and little hope of ever having it any better?
it's just like buying southern cotton in 1860, but if you can sleep at night that's your choice.

 

They are made be a little China man named Friedrice Lo Plick

 

Sorry but I have to agree with clutchdust about Professional Products. I bought a polished air gap intake manifold and it was a piece of cr*p. Oh yeah - it looked real nice. But the area where it counted most - the flange to head mating area - was horrible. Real poor quality control. The shape of the runners was real inconsistent from one to the next. The gap between the runners tapered down to just an 1/8" on one set. No way could you port these to match the heads. I ended up eating the shipping cost to send them back. Then I found a slightly used Edelbrock on Ebay for $225.
As to Summit - I live about 60 mi away. They have always been good to me. And I agree with some of the other guys - some stuff they make is fine, but when it comes to race quality endurance I want the better grade. Just my 25 cents.
Bman