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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Belgian1979vette
My car originally had a 9 leaf. I put in a 7 leaf because the car went down in the back to much on acceleration. There simply wasn't enough pressure on the front any more to get good cornering.
That sounds familiar......
Had it up yesterday replacing differential fluid. Believe I counted 9 leaves. I'm fixing to replace it with a composite spring soon so long as I can still keep the fenders off these tires. It's sitting up too high in the back already.
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by I'm Batman
I'd seriously consider a composite monospring.


This is 2007. I am completely mystified why anyone would spend money on a crappy riding heavy steel spring, when composite springs are available. They transform the ride and handling of these cars.
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 03:18 PM
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Actually I just placed my order today and with a VBP technician's advice I settled on a 350lb. poly rear spring and a set of (4) KYB GR-2's with the special rears. Just going to keep the front springs stock for now and see how the GR-2s make the car feel. The tech seemed to feel this would be a good combo.....

Will put them in this week coming. Will post update then. Thanks for all the help guys!!

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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 03:28 PM
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Good to hear. VB&P knows their stuff.
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 04:36 PM
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Good Luck.
Too many stories of broken and/or improper height composite springs
for me to pay the big bux and take a chance on one.
I would have taken the deal on the $100 7-leaf ... a good original if possible.
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 09:35 PM
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seconding the composite monospring. I bought a seven and a nine and wound up mixing leaves all three springs (original) to get it right. ride height was the issue. That drove me to longer bolts in the rear end.

monospring looks like more money but everyone who does it sounds much happier with the end result.
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Old Oct 4, 2007 | 09:55 PM
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Default Mono spring bounce

I put a 330 mono spring on my 350 '69 and took it back off. The nine leaf rode much better. The mono spring would pound my head into the t-top even with new shocks.
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Old Oct 4, 2007 | 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by NHvette
Good Luck.
Too many stories of broken and/or improper height composite springs
for me to pay the big bux and take a chance on one.
I would have taken the deal on the $100 7-leaf ... a good original if possible.
Most of the broken spring stories are due to improper installation (such as having an unshielded exhaust pipe too close). If the composite springs were that accident-prone, GM wouldn't have been using them since 1980.
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Old Oct 4, 2007 | 11:52 PM
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A heavy rear spring and light fronts will make the car oversteer in the corners. This is a good combination for drag racing, but can be dangerous on the street. The car may want to swap ends easily, especially if stepping on it in the corners.

I have 900 pound springs in front (SB) and VBP 360 Composite in back. Even with the super stiff springs in the front, the rear is plenty stiff in comparison. Stiff enough that even the wimpy L48 can bring the rear around pretty easily in a corner.

P.S. I will be autocrossing the car, if you aren't, don't go stiffer than 550 in front. Go less than 360 in rear, unless drag racing.
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Old Oct 5, 2007 | 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by 69427


This is 2007. I am completely mystified why anyone would spend money on a crappy riding heavy steel spring, when composite springs are available. They transform the ride and handling of these cars.
Please tell us about your 69 set up....your spring rates front/rear and shock rates...

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Old Oct 5, 2007 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Bric
Thanks for the replies guys!

I had originally planned on using the 7-leaf rear spring, a set of Moog 474lbs/in front coils, the stock front sway bar, and a 4 pack of KYB GR-2's. Anybody have an idea if that would be an OK setup?



Thanks again!

Bri
In my opinion your combination 474 front coils and 7 leaf rear fall right in with recommended balance front/rear of 25-30% stiiffer in the front over the rear suspension....

I'm running a new Guldstrand 7 leaf which is approx 50# stiffer than the stock 7 leaf...
I would suggest,however,that you consider Bilstein Sports with the steel rear spring over the KYB's....



Rich

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Old Oct 6, 2007 | 12:30 PM
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Default TRW mono vs. 9-leaf vs. F41

I've had all three set-ups: 9 leaf (66 BB coupe, standard BB suspension), TRW Mono w/matched gas shocks ('69 L46 Coupe) and 7 leaf F41 ('70 ZR1, stock F41 set-up).

My impression of all 3:

The 9-leaf is a bit soft for corners, and tends to float a bit at speed (w/new delco replacement shocks). Granted there's a 427, AC, PS, PB, etc. up front - so it's a lot to push around and contributes to the plow, etc.

The '69's TRW mono spring set-up was a medium heavy spring rate, with aftermarket gas shocks, stock front springs. The rear spring made for less lean in the corners, but made the car feel choppy and rough riding. I was going to back to a 9-leaf set up before I sold it.

I like the 7-leaf, F41 suspension the '70 ZR1 the best. In my limited experience, I think the C3 small block F41 combo is the best handling/balanced vintage Corvette I've driven. The car does not have the stock shocks (wish the previous owner didn't s@*%can them back in '84!) but original springs are all 'round. Even with worn-out cushions, it's very smooth, tight and makes the car feel very balanced at speed or in corners; no excessive lean, bounce or jounce. I'm looking fwd to trying it on a track sometime soon!
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