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Old Nov 20, 2007 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Fonz69
I am looking at getting one of the 5 speeds I sent a e-mail to KEISLER and no response yet on my questions on price or options , I think I would need the TKO-600 as my 540 will make over 600hp.

Hope I get a response soon, I just ordered my Torque thrust 2's today from Tomz wheelz and was very happy with there service and price, hope the transmission will happen the same
My buddy has a TKO-600 behind his 540 making over 700 HP and it works like a charm.

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Originally Posted by Skunkvette
Had the same thoughts myself last fall, then decided to drop in a GMPP 502 and the Keisler five speed over the winter into the 72 and never looked back.

The Keisler is a clean install, everything fit better than factory. Tech support was first rate, and questions or issues were quickly resolved.
And, You haven't broken anything yet???

Originally Posted by Fonz69
I am looking at getting one of the 5 speeds I sent a e-mail to KEISLER and no response yet on my questions on price or options , I think I would need the TKO-600 as my 540 will make over 600hp.

Hope I get a response soon, I just ordered my Torque thrust 2's today from Tomz wheelz and was very happy with there service and price, hope the transmission will happen the same
What upgrades are you doing to the rear?? I would be afraid of running that much HP with a stick. The autos would seem to be alot easier on the shifts..
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Originally Posted by Fonz69
I am looking at getting one of the 5 speeds I sent a e-mail to KEISLER and no response yet on my questions on price or options , I think I would need the TKO-600 as my 540 will make over 600hp.

Hope I get a response soon, I just ordered my Torque thrust 2's today from Tomz wheelz and was very happy with there service and price, hope the transmission will happen the same


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Old Nov 20, 2007 | 10:32 AM
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I purchased the 4-speed manual to 5-speed TKO600 conversion kit and installed it. I converted the crossmember to a removable one, makes installs and drops MUCH easier. I did have one problem though, I have a Lakewood scattershield and Lakewood clutch fork, because the scatter & fork are bigger than stock I couldn't get full travel on the clutch pedal. The fork was hitting the floor board at about 3/4 travel. Just figured I'd throw this out there...
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Old Nov 20, 2007 | 10:35 AM
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I like my Keisler TKO500 so much, I am considering a 2nd one.
Completely changed the car's character.

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Old Nov 20, 2007 | 11:35 AM
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There are Two places here on the forum that offer the TKO kits.

One is Keisler and the other is ClassicChevy5Speed. Look over both of them and do a search both here on the forum and google and I am sure you will find a bunch of info to help you decide on which way to go.
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Old Nov 20, 2007 | 02:58 PM
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Don't use the Lakewood fork as everyone that has tried one said it doesn't fit. Use the stock fork even with the Lakewood bellhousing.


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Old Nov 20, 2007 | 03:10 PM
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The cost of installing the 5 speed for $1800-$1900 is all relivent. Most of us have spent halt that on an exaust system

I'd say if you have a 4 spped and want the econo drivability with performance; GO For IT
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Old Nov 20, 2007 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by FatCat Blue 80
The cost of installing the 5 speed for $1800-$1900 is all relivent. Most of us have spent halt that on an exaust system

I'd say if you have a 4 spped and want the econo drivability with performance; GO For IT
1800-1900 where's that? They start at $3195.00
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Originally Posted by GENE-KEISLER SALES
Tremec TKO's start at $1895 or $1975 by themselves. What we sell is a complete conversion kit with a modified shift postion to fit properly into your car.
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1800-1900 where's that? They start at $3195.00
It's all relevent to what a person wants the car to be and what they are willing to put into it. Not sure what the quotes get you; my only point was it dempends how some look at it. The most appreasiated cars that we have all seen on this forum are not cheep.
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Old Nov 21, 2007 | 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by 69ttop502
Don't use the Lakewood fork as everyone that has tried one said it doesn't fit. Use the stock fork even with the Lakewood bellhousing.


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Good to know I have the #1500 Lakewood , thanks for the heads up
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Old Nov 21, 2007 | 09:10 AM
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I got a quote from The Driver Man who sells the whole kit. It starts at $3295, but by the time all the goodies are piled on (driveshaft, clutch assembly, shifter, pedals, etc.), you've at $4748.

My question, is I see a bunch of different options for it.

Example:
Bellhousing Aluminum/Titanium: $209
Bellhousing Steel SFI: $

Flywheel Billet Steel SFI Rated: $229
Flywheel Aluminum SFI Rated: $

I'm guessing the second options are lower quality. Is it really necessary to have an Aluminum/Titanium bellhousing and a billet steel flywheel for a daily driver that'll see the dragstrip twice a year?

What is SFI?

Do you think the second options are cheaper?
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Old Nov 21, 2007 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by guitarcrazy02
I got a quote from The Driver Man who sells the whole kit. It starts at $3295, but by the time all the goodies are piled on (driveshaft, clutch assembly, shifter, pedals, etc.), you've at $4748.

My question, is I see a bunch of different options for it.

Example:
Bellhousing Aluminum/Titanium: $209
Bellhousing Steel SFI: $

Go with Mcleod as they seem to have a better fit.

Flywheel Billet Steel SFI Rated: $229
Flywheel Aluminum SFI Rated: $

Do a search here on the forum. Some really like the Aluminum flywheel while others would stay with the steel. But stay with an SFI rated one for safty.

I'm guessing the second options are lower quality. Is it really necessary to have an Aluminum/Titanium bellhousing and a billet steel flywheel for a daily driver that'll see the dragstrip twice a year?

As I said above go with the Mcleod bellhousing if you like your feet and your car.

What is SFI?

SFI is a race safty foundation to make sure products are up to the task . Many tracks will not let you run without said products depending on how fast the car runs.

Do you think the second options are cheaper?
As I said above do a search and you will find a bunch of info.
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Old Nov 27, 2007 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by guitarcrazy02
I got a quote from The Driver Man who sells the whole kit. It starts at $3295, but by the time all the goodies are piled on (driveshaft, clutch assembly, shifter, pedals, etc.), you've at $4748.

My question, is I see a bunch of different options for it.

Example:
Bellhousing Aluminum/Titanium: $209
Bellhousing Steel SFI: $

Flywheel Billet Steel SFI Rated: $229
Flywheel Aluminum SFI Rated: $

I'm guessing the second options are lower quality. Is it really necessary to have an Aluminum/Titanium bellhousing and a billet steel flywheel for a daily driver that'll see the dragstrip twice a year?

What is SFI?

Do you think the second options are cheaper?

While I cannot speak to the pricing from The Driven Man, if your car is already a 4 speed, you can get away with the $3200+- price. By the way, the driveshaft is included. When you start adding on options, of course the price is going to go up. Like I said, if the car is already a 4 speed, your current bellhousing will work. Technically, all you have to change is the clutch disc as most Muncies use a 10 spline disc, the TKO is 26 splines.
The bellhousing's we sell are exact replicas of the GM 621. We do use a aluminum/titanium mix in the flange to make it stronger. This does not mean it is SFI approved. It just means the mounting flange to the engine is stronger than a stock 621. I think you'll find the price is pretty reasonable for a new bellhousing since you cannot buy a NEW 621 anymore.?.
Our flywheels are billet steel and usually weigh in around 30# vs the cast ones that come in around the 40# mark. The aluminum versions are well into the $350 range and weigh in around the 15# mark. It is has nothing to do with lower quality. In fact, we don't typically recommend aluminum flywheels for street driven cars as they don't hold the inertia when shifting. You tend to drop rpms drastically between shifts. Our flywheels, either billet or aluminum, are all SFI approved but that doesn't mean much without a scattershield to contain them in case of a clutch/flywheel mishap.

Like I said, I cannot speak to pricing, I can only try to clear up some of the misinformation floating around this thread. The automatic equipped vettes are going to cost more to convert as you need a bellhousing, flywheel, clutch kit, pedals, linkage etc.... It is MUCH cheaper if you are converting from 4 speed to 5 speed. Like I said, technically all you have to change is the clutch disc. This is assuming the pressure plate is in good condition already(and the flywheel can be turned). If you prefer to go with new pieces, then of course the price is going to be higher.
I hope this clears up some if the misinformation and if you need more answers, feel free to contact me.


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Old Nov 27, 2007 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by jake1
1800-1900 where's that? They start at $3195.00
Thats basicly the cost of the tranny alone as mentioned earlier in the thread. The kit clearly takes all the engineering out of the conversion though you could just buy the transmission and do it all yourself, provided you dont count your time as money.

I did my conversion just before the kits hit the market and the trannys were a tad cheaper then. I did my whole install for just over $2k...and like everyone else here, it is an astounding improvement to the car - clearly the best thing Ive done to the car.

I made out because my close ratio BW was a 26 spline clutch to begin with so i could reuse my existing clutch, shortening the driveshaft was $100 at the local driveline shop. I got a slip yoke for $35 as opposed to the multiple hundreds of dollars billet ones you normally end up with.

I modified my crossmember to be removable - some welding cost $35..

A special tranny mount (bolt in from BTO) was about $90..

anyway the costs as you can see are reasonable. But its not nearly as cool as a kit with all the thinking done for you.

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Old Nov 27, 2007 | 02:56 PM
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I put in a Keisler 5-speed a few years ago and love it. I've got tons of torque, so if I want, I can putter around and get great gas mileage too...
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[QUOTE=FRSTR90;1562830793]And, You haven't broken anything yet???

Pedalled the car real easy this past season, since the rear was original.

Just starting a total Van Steel coil over conversion with 12 bolt 3.77 rear and HD everything - next year we will be trying to break something.
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Still waiting on my quote for a price

Got my wheels today, would like to get a transmission too
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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Fonz69
Still waiting on my quote for a price

Got my wheels today, would like to get a transmission too
I have sent you a PM last week requesting your name and information. Your profile here does not give any information and the sales staff does not recognise your screen name here. please contact me or respond to my PM with your info and I will get the quote to you. I cannot do anything without knowing who you are?


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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Fonz69
Still waiting on my quote for a price

Got my wheels today, would like to get a transmission too
I sent a quote to your email on the 11/20. We are a business so some times it goes to your email spam box.

Call me and I will go over it with you

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