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Old Mar 7, 2008 | 04:46 PM
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this is just wrong!


You dont hang and frame this stuff on your wall. The only reason you keep it is to prove that the car is what you say it is. There is enough leeway in GM VINs to make any older vette have any option you can buy and can bolt on increasing the car's collectability and value. But it didnt come off the lot thataway. This is bogus


I went and had my dogs playing poker painting analyzed and its a fake!
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Old Mar 7, 2008 | 05:47 PM
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I don't have a original tank sticker for my car and I bought it anyway. A tank sticker is nice if you have it but doesn't add any value to the car as far as I'm concerned. I can trace the owners back to 1984 (still working on this)--don't think anyone was making fake 1971 vets back then. If it "Looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck. Guess what! It is probably a duck." I agree these tank sticker's are made for one reason--to fool someone. The only reason a dollar is worth a dollar is because we all believe it's a dollar. When we stop believing that---it will not longer be worth a dollar. When collector's stop believing these cars are real and most a fakes--they will be worth nothing. How many Mark McGuire, Babe Ruth, Brett Favre signatures are fake--lots of them. Buy from a reputable source and remember BUYER BEWARE!!!! You keep your fake tank sticker and I will keep my vet.
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Old Mar 7, 2008 | 07:56 PM
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I bought my "new" 74 about 2 weeks ago, I purchased it from a man who bought it 8 years ago and just drove it occasionally while he still lived in town, then moved to the copuntry and put it in the barn (metal). He gave me a bunch of papers that came with it when he bought it and I didn't look at them for a few days. The tank sticker in lousy condition was in with them. I'm sure if it was a fake it would have been nicer. Bottom line, I bought the car not knowing (or caring) if it had a tank sticker.
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Old Mar 7, 2008 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by dmayhew

People who have the original tank stickers are ( or were) in a unique position with their cars. And they deserve to keep that stauts intact.

Now some SOB ( Good Artist or not) makes all tank stickers suspect.



David

My '69 has the original tank sticker still in place, dont even know how much is still readable, never dropped the tank. Now I will be the only one that really knows it. I wouldn't expect anyone else to believe it , makes all tank stickers worthless in my eyes.
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Old Mar 7, 2008 | 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by gdm78vette
So why is it OK to replace a part on a car that you are restoring to "original", or a "Keep your GM vehicle all GM" sticker for the air cleaner if the original one fell off and it isn't OK to replace the tank sticker?

I've owned my car since new and before I knew anything about tank stickers I had the gas tank replaced because the original developed a leak and of course I foolishly didn't keep the tank sticker so now it seems I am missing a verrrrrrry important piece of paper.

Gees I'm so pissed at myself for not keeping the original oil cause now I'll never be able to restore my car back to original.
I would not worry about restoring your car back to original there are so many SA corvettes put away in storage since new it would not be practical to invest your time or money, even if you had your original tank sticker.
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Old Mar 7, 2008 | 10:50 PM
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First **** and now tank stickers??!!!
What will they try to fake next?
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by L82shark
this is just wrong!


I went and had my dogs playing poker painting analyzed and its a fake!
I've always wanted one of those, or an Elvis painted on velvet...but only if it is an original. Sorry to hear of your misfortune.
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 02:53 AM
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Originally Posted by gdm78vette
So why is it OK to replace a part on a car that you are restoring to "original", or a "Keep your GM vehicle all GM" sticker for the air cleaner if the original one fell off and it isn't OK to replace the tank sticker?

I've owned my car since new and before I knew anything about tank stickers I had the gas tank replaced because the original developed a leak and of course I foolishly didn't keep the tank sticker so now it seems I am missing a verrrrrrry important piece of paper.

Gees I'm so pissed at myself for not keeping the original oil cause now I'll never be able to restore my car back to original.

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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 12:28 PM
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I agree with your views and wish to subscribe to your newsletter!
OK, now that you've developed a fan club, please explain your theory that having an original tank sticker automatically increases the value of a later C3 that has an encoded VIN and no high value options?

I think you're fooling yourself.
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
OK, now that you've developed a fan club, please explain your theory that having an original tank sticker automatically increases the value of a later C3 that has an encoded VIN and no high value options?

I think you're fooling yourself.


....it's one thing to have a real tank sticker for a real L-88, LT-1, L-89, LS-6, LT-1 with A/C, ZR-1, '73-'75 Z07 car, etc., but really only pretty much a novelty item for most anything else.
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Kilroy1024
Because the tank sticker is used as evidence of the value of the car.

The replacement sticker may not be a FAKE sticker.
However, it can be used to FAKE the value of the entire car.

Kind of hard to do with a ball joint.
You've made some good findings and points on this subject. Even though this seems to have been going on for some time someone should still notify GM of what these individuals are doing and send them the links. If GM is currently aware of it, they may just see this as a niusance but may act on it w/ enough complaints.

I would think a tank sticker is a protected GM document and would need authorization to duplicate, especially considering its importance in todays market. There's no doubt these are being used to bring a higher price on vehicles and thats fraud when the buyer is lead to believe that document is original.
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
OK, now that you've developed a fan club, please explain your theory that having an original tank sticker automatically increases the value of a later C3 that has an encoded VIN and no high value options?

I think you're fooling yourself.
I don't think I ever said anything about if the C3 was early or late being a factor in its worth with a tank sticker. I was speaking in general terms when I was questioning why the presence or absence of a tank sticker changed the value of a car.

The problem as I see it is that too much credit is being given to a piece of paper in determining the value of a car. I know I wouldn't make a buying decision based on the seller showing me the tank sticker he found verifying that the car he was selling was special in some way. Especially if the price was north of $100k or even $20k for that matter. You yourself said that you went to GM for confirmation of the options installed on your car despite having a tank sticker. And I made the point that the only truly reliable verifier of an items authenticity would be the maker. Any buyer making a purchase decision on an item costing as much as some old cars based on a tank sticker deserves what he gets (you know the saying a fool and his money are soon parted). Now the availability of a replacement tank sticker seems to me to be not much different than the availability of any other replacement part for the car. The need for an aged version does beg the question of why anyone would want to put an old part on their car but as I pointed out the tank sticker on my car is missing (and they could be missing on an early C3 as well) and if I (or the owner of an early C3) felt some compelling need to replace it (which I don't) then maybe I or they would want an aged one, it being more appropriate to a survivor car (if that is what they had).

Oh, and in all likelihood a seller attempting to deceive a buyer would have picked up a fake window sticker, fake purchase order, and fake whatever other paper documentation he felt necessary to accomplish his objective.
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