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Old Mar 30, 2008 | 01:14 PM
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One of the threaded holes in my differential for mounting the rear spring is stripped. What are my choices? Heli coil? A longer thinner bolt that goes through the differential mounting hole then put a nut on the other side? Other choices? This was the last thing I was ding to finish my complete rear end restore/ rebuild. Thanks in advance.

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Old Mar 30, 2008 | 01:33 PM
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The Heli- coil is as good or better than the original thread.
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I would go with a helicoil also,, but just for info the previous owner of my vette drilled the old threads out and put a longer bolts with nuts and lock washers, it does the job.
Old Mar 30, 2008 | 02:50 PM
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There are thread repair kits that are better than Heli Coil. I would find a Keensert or Time-Sert. Google either name and you will find them. They are an actual inset rather than a coil.
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Ive never put a Heli-coil in before. Would I drill it all of the way through or would I have to leave a "Floor" in the newly drilled hole so when the bolt in threaded in it doesn't drive the Heli-coil out the other end? Does the Heli-coil get "guled" into place or just threaded in? Maybe there is a link about this?

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When you buy the kit it will come with instructions. Heli Coils you drill it with a bit they provide. Then tap it with a tap that they provide and thread in the insert. There is no need to glue it in it won't come out on its own. The only real problem they present is that they tend to come out with the fastener when it is removed the next time.
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If you have not installed the rear end yet I would just get a new cover. How are the other holes. If they are suspect then a new cover is in order. If it is just the one hole a heli coil will do.
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Unfortunately the rear end is back onto the car.
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Old Mar 30, 2008 | 07:44 PM
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I guess you would be able to drop the rear crossmember and differential cover while leaving the differential mounted and just nudging it a bit down. Then you can change to a new cover if you want to. However, helicoils will do it just fine and make a better thread then the one you had.

The helicoils are usually put in a hole that "bottoms" so the heli comes to a stop. It can be a problem that it tends to come out when you take the bolt out again. However, I see no problem with smearing the outside of the helicoil with some glue or hardcore loctite to keep it where you want it.
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Originally Posted by Fuelie74
There are thread repair kits that are better than Heli Coil. I would find a Keensert or Time-Sert. Google either name and you will find them. They are an actual inset rather than a coil.
I agree with you that keenserts, rosans and time-serts are better. Helicoils do fail after time but only when fastners often removed and installed but the advantage is that the hole requires less enlargement. This can be a problem with holes close to an edge.

Helicoils perform very well in through holes, the red coloured coils are self locking, you should not have to glue anything, but yes you can use a little loctite to help.

Not trying to be smart here,, just passing on experience, I install these reqularly at work
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As I'm sure most of you know the rear spring mounting bolt threaded hole passes through the diff end cover thread boss. I think it would be best if whatever method I use also allowed for the bolt to continue through the threaded hole like the original mounting hole did. Otherwise the number of threads that attach the bolt to the diff will be less than original if I have to leave a little at the bottom of the hole so a heli-coil can seat.
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Originally Posted by jontis
I guess you would be able to drop the rear crossmember and differential cover while leaving the differential mounted and just nudging it a bit down.
This won't work. The only thing holding the diff in the frame is the differential cover and the front mounting bushing. Removing the cover and crossmember and just letting the diff hang puts 120 lbs of sagging stress on the front bushing mount, which you will bend.
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Originally Posted by stinger12
This won't work. The only thing holding the diff in the frame is the differential cover and the front mounting bushing. Removing the cover and crossmember and just letting the diff hang puts 120 lbs of sagging stress on the front bushing mount, which you will bend.
Good point. I back off that earlier suggestion.
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Go to www.fulltorque.com These are different than all others.
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Originally Posted by bj1k
Go to www.fulltorque.com These are different than all others.
Hey, that's a new one, nice find
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Hi all,

I also have an issue mounting the leaf spring to the differential cover using the four 7/16-14 bolts. In one of the two rear facing bolt holes, the thread in the cover is gone. The previous owner has solved this by using a longer bolt going all the way through + a locking nut on top. Looks secure enough. I did the same for the other one next to it just for conformity & looks, even if strictly speaking not necessary.

The problem is with one of the two other bolts holes that go into the cover but aren't protruding anywhere so I can't put a nut on them but in one of them, the thread is NOK too. I'll try rethreading 7/16-14 but if that doesn't help I had the idea to use a slightly larger 1/2-13 and for that, drill the hole out with a 10.8mm drill and rethread for the slightly larger 1/2-13 (if that works do the same for the 2nd hole too).

However, I wonder if there's material enough in the cover to do that? Looks solid enough but just don't know for sure, don't want a leak either. Looks like a simple way to attach the leaf-spring securely after all without replacing the cover & all the work that goes with it. Just a 1/16 thicker bolt, should work. No? WDYT?

Any help is appreciated
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It will take a while, and cost a fortune, but I'd just order a Muskegon rear diff cover.

And consider starting a new thread with your question!

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Do the heli coil first, it takes away less material than the time seats. If it fails then you can go to a time or keen sert but you can't do it the other way around
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That was my first post on this forum. Some forums prefer that you post into an existing similar topic ... anyhow, point taken

At some point in time I may need to swap the cover but that will be when I'm getting the diff out again to change its gearing together with a gearbox upgrade. For now I'm rather looking for the quick fix
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Thx, I'll look into these options.



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