C3 General General C3 Corvette Discussion not covered in Tech
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Air conditioning question

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 14, 2008 | 08:20 PM
  #1  
Cocky B's Avatar
Cocky B
Thread Starter
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 906
Likes: 1
From: Dallas via Honolulu TX
Default Air conditioning question

I've got an 80 that has been sitting undriven for most of the past 2 years. I only got to drive it when I was in town visiting my folks. Last time I was there, the A/C was not blowing cold air. My question is do you guys think this is a simple case of the A/C needing to be charged, or is there something else going on here. I'm moving back in May, and I don't want to drive back to Dallas with no A/C. Little Jake gave me a shop to take it to, but I want to go prepared with ideas of what it could be. I may have my brother take it in for me if it could be a bigger problem that can't be fixed in a day (I've only got a week in Nashville to get it fixed). Thanks
Reply
Old Apr 14, 2008 | 09:26 PM
  #2  
CJ 77's Avatar
CJ 77
Racer
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 334
Likes: 0
From: York PA
Default

I have a 77 and my A/C system is out now for rebuilding for the expected HOT summer. From what "I think" I have learned thus far -freon doesnt evaporate in a closed system. So If its lost its cool perhaps there is a leaky o ring/fitting, condensor, dryer or evaporator. hoses or a sensor has failed or the compressor has pooped out. So far my condensor has tested good and I'm rebuilding the dryer. The evaporator is being tested this week. I think my problem was a leaky "O-ring" but I too stupid to just fix that so I pulled it all out to rebuild.

I understand a system can be flushed and pressurized to check for leaks and that at least you'll be able to tell where its comming from.
But FYI there are at least 1/2 dozen places for failure.

The hood has to come off to get to the fittings and get the condensor off if necessary. Geting the evaporator off the fire wall is no easy task either. For somebody who knows what theyre doing, and has all the parts on hand, I would still think they'd be hard pressed to get a overall rebuild done in 2 days. I've putzed with this for 3 weeks most of it in waiting for parts as I dont order until I'm sure I need it.

You probably still have r12 in there too.

I think, if I were you, I'd just let them pressurize it to see whats up.
Maybe its just a lousy o-ring?
Reply
Old Apr 14, 2008 | 09:30 PM
  #3  
Cocky B's Avatar
Cocky B
Thread Starter
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 906
Likes: 1
From: Dallas via Honolulu TX
Default

Originally Posted by CJ 77
I have a 77 and my A/C system is out now for rebuilding for the expected HOT summer. From what "I think" I have learned thus far -freon doesnt evaporate in a closed system. So If its lost its cool perhaps there is a leaky o ring/fitting, condensor, dryer or evaporator. hoses or a sensor has failed or the compressor has pooped out. So far my condensor has tested good and I'm rebuilding the dryer. The evaporator is being tested this week. I think my problem was a leaky "O-ring" but I too stupid to just fix that so I pulled it all out to rebuild.

I understand a system can be flushed and pressurized to check for leaks and that at least you'll be able to tell where its comming from.
But FYI there are at least 1/2 dozen places for failure.

The hood has to come off to get to the fittings and get the condensor off if necessary. Geting the evaporator off the fire wall is no easy task either. For somebody who knows what theyre doing, and has all the parts on hand, I would still think they'd be hard pressed to get a overall rebuild done in 2 days. I've putzed with this for 3 weeks most of it in waiting for parts as I dont order until I'm sure I need it.

You probably still have r12 in there too.

I think, if I were you, I'd just let them pressurize it to see whats up.
Maybe its just a lousy o-ring?
Man, I really hope it's just an o-ring. Otherwise, I'm going without A/C this summer (in Dallas) until I can afford to fix it.
Reply
Old Apr 15, 2008 | 07:17 AM
  #4  
Ganey's Avatar
Ganey
Race Director
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Apr 1999
Posts: 11,520
Likes: 13
From: CORVETTE 77 385 C.I. TEXAS
Default

Originally Posted by Cocky B
... Last time I was there, the A/C was not blowing cold air. My question is do you guys think this is a simple case of the A/C needing to be charged, or is there something else going on here. ...
Thanks
If it was working before that, then most likely it needs some more freon or possibly a hose (more likely than an o-ring).
Reply
Old Apr 15, 2008 | 11:15 AM
  #5  
7T1vette's Avatar
7T1vette
Team Owner
15 Year Member
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Top Answer: 5
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 37,637
Likes: 3,116
From: Crossville TN
Default

An A/C compressor, sitting in one position for a couple of years, is a good 'recipe' for freon to leak out. Since it was working before you parked it, it is probably OK now (unless there was already a small leak working). Charge it up and drive it a while, then try it out. It should work...the only question is, "For how long?". Good luck.
Reply
Old Apr 15, 2008 | 11:41 AM
  #6  
Jon Hekking's Avatar
Jon Hekking
Race Director
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 15,115
Likes: 282
From: Salt Lake City Utah
2020 C3 of the Year Finalist - Unmodified
2019 C3 of Year Finalist (stock)
Default

If the car has been sitting for a couple of years it is not uncommon for your system to fail, especially in a hot climate. The rubber o rings and even the hoses will deteriorate and your freon will leak out. If your compressor comes on it's most likely a leak, but it can be an easy or difficult fix, depending on what's leaking. You can have a shop charge it up and run a can of leak detector through it, that's the easiest way to find the leak. If R12 wasn't so expensive I would just charge it up and hope that fixes it, but I would hate to replace it twice.
Reply
Old Apr 15, 2008 | 04:16 PM
  #7  
7T1vette's Avatar
7T1vette
Team Owner
15 Year Member
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Top Answer: 5
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 37,637
Likes: 3,116
From: Crossville TN
Default

The difficulty is that you have to put some fluid/lubricant in the system before you can know whether it will seal or not. You could put a vacuum to it, but since it has been sitting so long, it's not a surprise that it leaks. Maybe you just put a light charge in the system so that you can exercise it to get it re-sealed. Then have it evacuated and tested for leakage. If it seals OK, fill it competely and it should be OK. If it still leaks, have a pro figure out the problem.
Reply
Old Apr 15, 2008 | 05:23 PM
  #8  
wagonerjim's Avatar
wagonerjim
Instructor
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 238
Likes: 1
From: Oklahoma City Oklahoma
Default

I have an 80 and I just replaced my A/C this past weekend. Mine was all original and it had a leak in the compressor. I just decided to change out the system and go R134.

I purchased the kit for $259.99 plus $35 shipping and it came with the compressor, drier, orfice, seals/o-rings and oil. Many corvette sites sell the kit, but I got mine from EBay seller from Texas. Here is the site if you are interested:
http://stores.ebay.com/airpartsstore...QQftidZ2QQtZkm

My friend and I replace the system in about 3 hours. It was really easier than I thought. My friend was the expert, but let me do the work so I could learn. I'm sure he could have done it in 2 hours.

The hardest part was changing the drier, but by removing the gills on the side of the car, it was easy to get to the bottom of the drier. We took all the breather components and the anti-freeze overflow bottle out in order to get to the drier.

I purchased the R134 and taking it to another friend this weekend to vacuum the system then load her up.

It pays to have good friends.

Basically what I'm saying is if you have someone who knows what they are doing, it's not that expensive to replace your system.

Good Luck
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To Air conditioning question

Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

 Brett Foote
story-6

Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

 Michael S. Palmer
story-9

2027 Corvette vs The World: Every C8 vs Its Closest Competitor

 Joe Kucinski




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:40 AM.

story-0
Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

Slideshow: The 10 most explosive Corvettes ever built based on power-to-weight ratio.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-20 07:23:03


VIEW MORE
story-1
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-2
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

Slideshow: Ranking the top 10 Corvette engines by torque output.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:58:09


VIEW MORE
story-4
Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

Slideshow: A Corvette pace car nearly matching IndyCar speeds sounds exaggerated, until you look at the numbers.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-04 20:03:36


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

Among a rather large group of them.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:56:44


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

Slideshow: the top 10 things Corvette owners want in the C9 Corvette

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-30 12:41:15


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

Slideshow: 10 Important Corvette 'firsts' that every fan should know.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 17:02:16


VIEW MORE
story-8
5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

Slideshow: Should you buy a 2020-2026 Corvette or wait for 2027?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 10:08:58


VIEW MORE
story-9
2027 Corvette vs The World: Every C8 vs Its Closest Competitor

Slideshow: 2027 Corvette lineup vs the world.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-24 16:12:42


VIEW MORE