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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 06:06 PM
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My fiance asked me what year a vette was the other day in a parking lot, and I said, "70 or 71" and she said, "which one?" I dunno. How can you tell?

'69 to '70 I think just about anyone can nail, and the only differences I know between the '71 and '72 are the amber turn signals and fiber optics.

But how can you tell the difference between a '70 and '71?

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The ' 70 has different side grilles, the squares extend further into the engine area. ' 70 front grilles are different being no screw holes on the bottom of the grille. Acouple of other changes, clear to amber parking light lens, exhaust tips.
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The ' 70 has different side grilles, the squares extend further into the engine area. ' 70 front grilles are different being no screw holes on the bottom of the grille. Acouple of other changes, clear to amber parking light lens, exhaust tips.
I dont' know what you mean it has different side grilles, but they should both have the 5 x 4 square grilles. Can anyone else confirm the squares extend "further" into the engine bay? Confirm no screw holes on bottom of '70 front grilles?

I'm 99% sure though that the amber lens came in '72 for the parking lights.
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Some deep googling I read that the '71 front grilles had a raised chrome edge, whereas the '70 did not. Fact or fiction?
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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 07:03 PM
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Default Early 1971's

My 71's VIN # is 0009 (9th 71 built). She was built August 17, 1970. My car, all original, has the clear parking lights, does not have the chromed front grill, and has no screws in the bottom of the grill. 71's were the last year for fiberoptics. It is my understanding, the early
71's (2500?) had the same characteristics mentioned above as the
70's. After that, the changes mentioned where in place on the 71's making them different then the 70's

Clear as mud now?

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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by foxymophandlpapa
My fiance asked me what year a vette was the other day in a parking lot, and I said, "70 or 71" and she said, "which one?" I dunno. How can you tell?

'69 to '70 I think just about anyone can nail, and the only differences I know between the '71 and '72 are the amber turn signals and fiber optics.

But how can you tell the difference between a '70 and '71?
Aside from checking numbers, no one can tell the difference between a late 70 and an early 71.
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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 07:51 PM
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There were slight differences between 70 and 71's. The most noticable are the front grills with 70 having no screw holes and using studs to secure them. The side grills on 70's had no raised edge and were chromed on the vertical edges, 71 and later years had chromes edges on both vertical and horizontal edges in a honeycomb effect. That being said I am sure that many of these small changes were carried over into early 71 production until old parts were used.
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Foxy,

Here is what he is talking about.

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You can look at the HP rating on the shift console if the window is open

Also I guess the easiest way is to look at the VIN # on the windshield pillar, The 6th digit is the year

Also if it is a later build 71 the rear tail lights have a checkered board pattern all 70's and early 71 had conical lines

As far as the egg crate side grills , I do not remember when the change occured, but the only difference is early units had chrome only on the hort. lines , later cars had the chrome on both vert. and hort. lines
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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 08:36 PM
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Side gills as mentioned, grille surround trim without screw holes in '70 and with them in '71.... The '71 front parking lamps have clear lenses with amber bulbs. I thought that was the same as '70. Did the '70 park lamps come with clear bulbs? Other details are the VIN difference [of course] and the info plate on the console. And in the "infintessimal minutia" category, I believe that the color of the FM-stereo [signal] light on the radio was different between '70 and '71.
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1971 model year is the most controversial of the three similar year models. THAT'S because it is a transitional year, having components used from leftover '70 models and components used that were installed for the '72 models.

AM-FM stereo equipped radios were the same for '70 & '71. Change came with '72 models.

Exhaust tips on '70's don't have the bottom weld bead, like '71 & '72's.

Side grilles not only have a raised horizontal and vertical edge that is exposed chrome, in '71, but the CASTING itself is different from a '70 model.

As others have alluded to many minor minute changes during the production year.
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This is going back aways to 1971 ... so it may not be accurate ... I remember sitting in the driver's seat of a new '71 on the showroom floor of a dealership, looking for differences between it and my own '70. I didn't see much difference ... but I do recall that at least one of the switch ***** on the dash of the '71 had a symbol on it that wasn't on the '70. It may have been the headlight switch ****, or perhaps it was the tip of the cigarette lighter ... or some other.

My '70 doesn't have symbols on the ***** ... '71 owners - please chime in.
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I thought the symbols started in 72.
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Old Apr 16, 2008 | 01:52 AM
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If stock on the non-symbol control ***** ran out before the end of production on the '71s, the switch-over could have taken place early. That kind of a change is considered a "running" change and wouldn't require a definite model year break-point.
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Old Apr 16, 2008 | 02:09 AM
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my '71 has no symbols on the *****.

one thing to keep in mind, folks, is that after almost 40 years and god knows how many restorations and parts replacements..... to walk up to a car in a parking lot and know FOR SURE what year it is, you've gotta look at the VIN.
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Old Apr 16, 2008 | 03:25 AM
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My '70 has symbols on the ***** from the factory.

I have a hard time telling 70 & 71 differences. The gill thing is just too minor - you'd have to get down there with a magnifying glass and then the owner is going to wonder what the heck you're doing. The screw holes in the front grill are a pretty good indicator.

The easiest way (on two known stock cars) is to look at the hp figures in the console plaque.

Essentially, the 70's and the 71's are identical - except that the '70s are much cooler...
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Old Apr 16, 2008 | 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Z-man
My '70 has symbols on the ***** from the factory.

The easiest way (on two known stock cars) is to look at the hp figures in the console plaque.
My '70 does not have symbols. I'd like to see a pic to see what yours look like.

I think the VIN is by far the easiest way. Only takes a quick glance at the pillar, as opposed to sticking your mug inside someone's car.

Btw, early '71's also had clear lenses w/ colored bulbs, like the '70.
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Old Apr 16, 2008 | 07:29 AM
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Check this site out: http://www.idavette.net/facts.htm

Here is what they say about the '71 vs. '70 model:

"The 1971 Corvette was one of the model years least changed in appearance. A labor dispute in May of 1969 caused the 1969 model production to run long, shortening normal 1970 production by over four months. To compensate Chevrolet then treated 1971 Corvette production as an extension of 1970. GM also directed it's divisions to cut octane requirement in all 1971 engines, this effort carried a higher priority than appearance changes. One visible clue to a 1971's outward appearance is amber parking light lenses, although some very early production had clear lenses."

I've also been told that the screws on the front grill of the '70's may be different if it's an early build or a late build. Mine is a late build '70 and it has the screws.

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How about that. My '71 was a Dec. '70 build and it has clear parking light lenses with amber bulbs. Actually, I've never seen a '71 that didn't have the same configuration....when actually looking over show cars or looking at pictures of '71s in Corvette history books.
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Old Apr 16, 2008 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by 7T1vette
How about that. My '71 was a Dec. '70 build and it has clear parking light lenses with amber bulbs. Actually, I've never seen a '71 that didn't have the same configuration....when actually looking over show cars or looking at pictures of '71s in Corvette history books.



I believe they were going to change the lenses in 71 to amber but never did. Instead they installed amber bulbs. Some very late 71's might have amber lenses because that change actually took place for all 72's.

One difference that most folks don't know about...... for 71 and 71 only the crossed flag emblem on the horn button was different. The top square of the checkered flag (the square nearest to the flag pole) is white. On 70 & 72 it's black.
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