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Old May 8, 2008 | 09:01 PM
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let me try this again.... i need some feedback regarding a product

say product A is made out of the states and can have it manufactured for $2usd........ and product B is "made in the USA" but costs $5usd to manufacture....

say you want to market both products and maybe tack on $3-5usd difference for the manufacturing cost difference....

product A=$22usd
product B=$27usd

do you think that in the USA that product "made in the USA" still holds anyweight as for marketing and such........ or would people still be interested in buying the cheaper product

these products will not be side by side....but i'm trying to wiegh the costs in making a product to support the USA economy in some fashion and if the marketing of that product would also benefit the situation...

considering the global import/manufacturing process, not sure if people really care these days.....

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Old May 8, 2008 | 09:17 PM
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I care

I pass over stuff all the time because of the China Syndrome

Made In The USA matters to me
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Old May 8, 2008 | 09:20 PM
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considering I only drive american cars even though the foreign ones last longer. I enjoy my job, medical plan, pension, etc.. I will always by the american product first no matter the cost and support other americans jobs. I sleep better at night knowing the money I spent will get respent here in the USA.
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Old May 8, 2008 | 11:21 PM
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I value American made products a lot. I will always pay more goods built in America. If I have a choice in the store between a Chinese or USA manufactured good I will buy the American product. I hate when I see old products I used to buy that were made in USA are now made elsewhere. Same goes for apples at the supermarket. I prefer American produce.

With that said I drive a Mazda Protege and will start my job selling Subarus in a week. I just can't get over how there is more American parts content in some Japanese cars like Subaru than American branded automobiles. Furthermore, cars like the Legacy are built here (Indiana) unlike new American cars like the Pontiac G8.
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Old May 9, 2008 | 12:03 AM
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If the quality is the same, I'll take the cheaper of the two.
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Old May 9, 2008 | 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by BigEarl
If the quality is the same, I'll take the cheaper of the two.
yes, but the hole thing about "made in usa" is that the quality should be better . i think it depends on what i'm buying. if i want it to last i won't buy the cheap one.
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Old May 9, 2008 | 01:12 AM
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If I have the option, I always choose the USA made product. Problem is we are not getting that option much these days.
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Old May 9, 2008 | 01:49 AM
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The problem asking here is that most C3 owners seem to have a greater appreciation for USA made products. So, if the product is a C3 product, I could see the "made in the USA" being more valuable, but I'm not sure it is worth a greater than 10% increase. Personally, if it is something that is commonly used and has a lot of substitutes, I think the cheaper would sell more. If it's a specialty product, you might be able to justify the higher price. As I am struggling to make ends meet right now, I'd be buying the cheaper one.

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Old May 9, 2008 | 02:46 AM
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Every new car I've bought for myself (1Car, 4 Trucks) or negotiated for family or friends (Several) has been a Chevy, Ford or Dodge. No foreign products while i eat my American food and ask my fellows to buy my products and utilize my services. I don't drive home in my Honda, basically giving the shiv in the back to my friends and teachers and neighbors, just so I can feel 'special' and 'smart' . the difference may have been there in the eighties, but now with Fords quality equal to Toyota's, and the American economy in need, I would only consider buying American for large, important purchases. As for some things, I weigh the use I'm going to put them to. I'm not a fool with my money, and if I'm only gonna use a tool once or twice in a lifetime I don't need a snap on so I'll do the harbor freight special, for this kinda purchase. I do think there needs to be this type of adjustment in the market place. but for "Durable Goods" I only, and will only buy American, and haver no problem paying more, though I drought this is the case now, considering the dollars position with the yen and euro.

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Old May 9, 2008 | 03:05 AM
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"Made in the U.S.A." Matters to me, but quality does too. Pride of workmanship is something that the younger generation may be losing a sense of. I'll buy the product I feel is the best, if it comes from North Korea and makes someone mad, I encourage that person to go a build a better mouse trap here in the states.

Two examples.

I paid a company in Weatridge, CO $620 for a rucksack that I can use until a grenade goes off inside of it. It's the best quality that I could find and it works for me. I could have gotten one similar in dimensions for around $125 from South East Asia and replaced it four months later.

The cap on the DeWitt's radiator says "Made in Mexico" because it's the one that works the best for me. I know Tom's probably shaking his head, along with a few others on here, but the 'better' radiator cap wouldn't seal properly.

I admire your thoughts and efforts to help our economy, instead of just following the almighty dollar to it's last cent.
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Old May 9, 2008 | 06:45 AM
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Being a Canadian I always try to source stuff made either in Canada or US. I hate this off shore stuff and too many people have lost their jobs to off shore manufactures that don't have the pension, health & safety, envornmental standards that North Americans have. No wonder they can make the stuff cheap. Not to mention in many respects the products are just not as good. We can all blame our friends at Walmart. It also seems to be working very well for Edlebrock as they have MADE IN USA all over their stuff and are very proud of it.
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Old May 9, 2008 | 08:00 AM
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I prefer to buy American, no question, though I won't shy away from foreign products if it's a better fit for what I want. I agree that American products 'should' be better quality, but lets not forget something:

There are a lot of stupid people here in the states, and not all of them are Americans. Also, those stupid uneducated people here, work someplace where high standards and education are not required...like factory jobs and high volume manufacturing.

So, some uneducated foreign person, might be making your "Made in America" part, which might affect it's quality.
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Old May 9, 2008 | 08:06 AM
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say that this product is a clothing object........ like a shirt.......

it's an object that you would wear and has the quality to go with it...... it's not just a regular slapped together item.....


reason being is that i'm switching my products to 'made in the usa' and feel as if it's the best way to make it happen.......

plus i hate the whole overseas manufacturing for items that can be made in the states.....(canada also if needed)....

i have had family members lose jobs due to jobs moving and all that......


just trying to get a feel for the "made in the usa" identity


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Old May 9, 2008 | 10:54 AM
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The important 'X-factor' that is missing from this economics equation is the 'value' of the flow of money in the economy after that purchase. The money brought to one country's economy will continue to circuclate and provide additional benefits....just because it remains there. That is what the US companies [and the federal government] have missed all along. That money is used later to spend for other products, pay taxes, pay welfare, etc., etc. If that money is spent overseas, it benefits their economy...not ours. Did GM think that their market share would go up after cutting 100,000 U.S. employees from their ranks (many of which bought a new GM car every year with their salaries)? Surprise, GM! If you don't spend the money here, it won't be available to purchase your d@mn products!

The ultimate insult on this situation is the recent decision by the U.S. Government to purchase high-dollar airplanes from Europe instead of using an American-based/owned company. "Good job, Uncle Sam...help your neighbors before helping your own family."
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Old May 9, 2008 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Durango_boy

So, some uneducated foreign person, might be making your "Made in America" part, which might affect it's quality.
Meat packing or ball joints...???
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Old May 9, 2008 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 400hp427vette
considering I only drive american cars even though the foreign ones last longer. I enjoy my job, medical plan, pension, etc.. I will always by the american product first no matter the cost and support other americans jobs. I sleep better at night knowing the money I spent will get respent here in the USA.
Originally Posted by RunningMan373
Every new car I've bought for myself (1Car, 4 Trucks) or negotiated for family or friends (Several) has been a Chevy, Ford or Dodge. No foreign products while i eat my American food and ask my fellows to buy my products and utilize my services. I don't drive home in my Honda, basically giving the shiv in the back to my friends and teachers and neighbors, just so I can feel 'special' and 'smart'...
You might want to check where those "domestic" cars are being built. Is it better for American workers if you buy a car from the Big 3 that's built in Mexico, or a Japanese car that's built in the US?

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The ultimate insult on this situation is the recent decision by the U.S. Government to purchase high-dollar airplanes from Europe instead of using an American-based/owned company. "Good job, Uncle Sam...help your neighbors before helping your own family."
Which was a better product? I'm of the opinion that the military should be buying the best equipment possible. If the US plane wasn't up to spec, well, they should have done better.
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Usually, all the 'bidders' meet specs. There are differences in performance, but not usually a major difference. The question in this thread is "Why should we care [about buying U.S. products]?" I just tried to respond with my perspective. I'm not looking for a debate.
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Old May 9, 2008 | 01:37 PM
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I think it depends on the product, the price, and the industry. The big truck industry is a lot more caring about made in the USA than the car industry for example.
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Old May 9, 2008 | 01:40 PM
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Seems like the question here is does the "Made in America" stamp increase a products price tag? All of the econ classes I have taken put a lot of emphasis into the product being sold (is it a bolt or something custom?) But unlike the masses we corvette people seem to lean towards American made.
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As a general statement (there are specific exceptions on both sides), companies in the US tend to focus more on making a quality part, because their company can be made liable for a serious problem, should the part NOT perform properly. Companies who buy parts from overseas manufacturers do not seem to share the same amount of risk with their products. There are a lot of 'uneducated' car lovers/owners out there that think "If it looks like the right part, it must be OK." Unfortunately, they will opt for the least costly part; some of us prefer a "good" part...but the majority will determine what products are made available to the public. ('Market demand' speaks!)
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