Replace ball joints ???
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Drifting
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Replace ball joints ???
Both my C3s "wander" left and right while going straight down the road.
I do not know that either has ever had new ball joints. They still have rivets, so I am betting they are original.
Is there a "tech paper" on this forum giving a step / step procedure for replacing these? I "searched" but did not see one. Thanks for any help. I am pretty sure I need to replace upper and lower on both cars....especially the BB...it's out of control over about 60mph!
I do not know that either has ever had new ball joints. They still have rivets, so I am betting they are original.
Is there a "tech paper" on this forum giving a step / step procedure for replacing these? I "searched" but did not see one. Thanks for any help. I am pretty sure I need to replace upper and lower on both cars....especially the BB...it's out of control over about 60mph!
Le Mans Master
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Sounds like you need an alignment. How's the tire wear? I don't think ball joints would cause that, though not positive. How are the control arm bushings? If those are shot, or worse, gone, that will cause wandering.
You have a mechanic you trust?
When it's in the shop, stay and watch. Ask the alignment tech to check the ball joints while you're there.
Glenn
You have a mechanic you trust?
When it's in the shop, stay and watch. Ask the alignment tech to check the ball joints while you're there.
Glenn
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Do a search on "balljoint" or better yet "bushings", because you may as well do these while your at it. Good time to also cut your front coils if your front is sitting slightly too high for your tastes.
My car drove pretty decent, but had some bump steer, more than I would have expected. Turns out my lower balljoints were about as loose as they could get. Youll see once you get them out.
Buy all MOOG components, unless you go poly bushings, then get Energy Suspension poly, but MOOG everything else.
Its hard to keep these projects from creeping into something more than you originally started out to do.
Fan shrouds may come into play in order to get the upper control arms out. Cant get mine back in, so Im going electric with a spreader bar
Good luck, Brent......
My car drove pretty decent, but had some bump steer, more than I would have expected. Turns out my lower balljoints were about as loose as they could get. Youll see once you get them out.
Buy all MOOG components, unless you go poly bushings, then get Energy Suspension poly, but MOOG everything else.
Its hard to keep these projects from creeping into something more than you originally started out to do.
Fan shrouds may come into play in order to get the upper control arms out. Cant get mine back in, so Im going electric with a spreader bar
Good luck, Brent......
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Both my C3s "wander" left and right while going straight down the road.
I do not know that either has ever had new ball joints. They still have rivets, so I am betting they are original.
Is there a "tech paper" on this forum giving a step / step procedure for replacing these? I "searched" but did not see one. Thanks for any help. I am pretty sure I need to replace upper and lower on both cars....especially the BB...it's out of control over about 60mph!
I do not know that either has ever had new ball joints. They still have rivets, so I am betting they are original.
Is there a "tech paper" on this forum giving a step / step procedure for replacing these? I "searched" but did not see one. Thanks for any help. I am pretty sure I need to replace upper and lower on both cars....especially the BB...it's out of control over about 60mph!
Look above on the tool bar and click on Other. Then click on Tech Tips then click on C3. Theres a write up named Front Suspension Rebuild lessons learned. It might help you with some questions.
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I got the Van Steel DVD, which was fully worth the $25 + shipping. It has great methodology for getting the front suspension apart.
Have fun...
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wander could be in the box, alignment, worn suspension and steering parts. If you have a GOOD alignement shop have them check the frotn and parts. If they are worn they'll know and you can then address the problem.
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If you do buy ball joints, it's a good idea to buy only Moog. There have been several threads on the forum about defective ball joints that fail after only a few hundred miles. You can always depend on Moog.
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1) Buy Moog.
2) "Pickle forks" are useless garbage. Get the correct tool to pop the ball joints and tie rod ends loose.
2) "Pickle forks" are useless garbage. Get the correct tool to pop the ball joints and tie rod ends loose.
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a worn out steering box can cause the problem...I think someone mentioned it above...but the rag joint too.
You can check the ball joints. Jack the car up, tire off the ground. Grab the tire top and bottom and rock the tire/wheel assembly vertically in toward the car. if you have a lot of play the ball joints are worn. How many miles? If they are original they are probably worn.
Just to be sure, do a body off restoration and redo the entire chassis including front and rear suspension. Knock yourself out on the poly bushings, but I'd research it and be sure that is really the route you want to go.
You can check the ball joints. Jack the car up, tire off the ground. Grab the tire top and bottom and rock the tire/wheel assembly vertically in toward the car. if you have a lot of play the ball joints are worn. How many miles? If they are original they are probably worn.
Just to be sure, do a body off restoration and redo the entire chassis including front and rear suspension. Knock yourself out on the poly bushings, but I'd research it and be sure that is really the route you want to go.
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