Center Gauge Bezel GAP! It Can't Be!!!???
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Center Gauge Bezel GAP! It Can't Be!!!???
I replaced my '69's broken in the typical place center gauge bezel with a repro piece. Now I have this gap at the upper left between the top dash pad and the bezel. It looks like the top dash pad actually curves up at this point.
Something must be amiss??? I then look at other cars dash pictures online and see that same issue on many cars??? Then I asked around and was told "that's the way they are, live with it" No way!!!
This can't be! It looks terrible! There must be a fix!
I have that screw at the top super tight, but the gap is still there on only the left side.
One of you out there must be familair with this problem. I can't sit in the car and ignore it. What's the answer? new top dash? Different bezel? LH dash adjustment?
Thanks!!!
Something must be amiss??? I then look at other cars dash pictures online and see that same issue on many cars??? Then I asked around and was told "that's the way they are, live with it" No way!!!
This can't be! It looks terrible! There must be a fix!
I have that screw at the top super tight, but the gap is still there on only the left side.
One of you out there must be familair with this problem. I can't sit in the car and ignore it. What's the answer? new top dash? Different bezel? LH dash adjustment?
Thanks!!!
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There is often a gap at this point even with original bezels. I ended up shimming the bottom of the bezel where it mounts on top of the shifter console to tip the bezel up on the left side. It helped a LITTLE.
I got the bezel as straight as I could and then tightened the screws a little at a time so I didn't pull it out of position.
Good Luck.
Regards,
Alan
When I lay my original bezel on a flat surface it's obvious it's warped at the top.
I got the bezel as straight as I could and then tightened the screws a little at a time so I didn't pull it out of position.
Good Luck.
Regards,
Alan
When I lay my original bezel on a flat surface it's obvious it's warped at the top.
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Alan,
Good idea, I tried that to, but it only goes so far.
Is your original "warped" to compensate for "lift" if the top dash to fill the space at the top?
I was wondering if the repros don't have this "Warp" and that's why you see so many with that gap.
I went on ebay today and almost every '69 that has a dash picture you can see how the bezel does not fit at the top.
Good idea, I tried that to, but it only goes so far.
Is your original "warped" to compensate for "lift" if the top dash to fill the space at the top?
I was wondering if the repros don't have this "Warp" and that's why you see so many with that gap.
I went on ebay today and almost every '69 that has a dash picture you can see how the bezel does not fit at the top.
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There is often a gap at this point even with original bezels. I ended up shimming the bottom of the bezel where it mounts on top of the shifter console to tip the bezel up on the left side. It helped a LITTLE.
I got the bezel as straight as I could and then tightened the screws a little at a time so I didn't pull it out of position.
Good Luck.
Regards,
Alan
When I lay my original bezel on a flat surface it's obvious it's warped at the top.
I got the bezel as straight as I could and then tightened the screws a little at a time so I didn't pull it out of position.
Good Luck.
Regards,
Alan
When I lay my original bezel on a flat surface it's obvious it's warped at the top.
I dont shim the bezel but I do lift the shift console up where it attaches on each side.
Loosen all the screws going across the front of the dash and let it sit with the cluster pushing up in the center.In the summer if left outside in the sun and windows closed I can get them close to perfect but it takes time.You have to give the upper dash time to reform.If you push too hard you'll crack your new cluster.
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Top Dash?
Are all the top dash pads supposed to have this Lift-Bend-curve just left of center? Or is that caused by the pull of that top center screw in the gauge cluster?
It looks like they made it curve up for the driver. Is it intentional, or a factor of age?
It looks like they made it curve up for the driver. Is it intentional, or a factor of age?
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My '72 has a gap probably 1/4 inch when I replaced the bezel. I have seen many photos of cars most seem to have a gap. I am going to repair my original bezel one day and make it fit properly.
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Safety Car
Hello, I replaced the bezel in my 72 last month. Put in a new radio, clock and lens plate. The top left corner of the bezel sticks out and away from the dash. Everything else is nice and tight, with a good match between the dash and bezel.
Only the top left of mine is out of place also.
kdf
Only the top left of mine is out of place also.
kdf
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Burning Brakes
My original 72 gauge bezel sticks out in the top left corner................a-lot.......... and I do have an original dash cover
If you look close at the dash just to the right of the air freshener you can see what looks like a small white line .. just to the left of the chrome wiper switch..... at the same height as the switch... where the guage bezel and dash pad meet. That, is infact, the top of the bezel overhanging the dash pad about a good 1/4''
Hammadown
If you look close at the dash just to the right of the air freshener you can see what looks like a small white line .. just to the left of the chrome wiper switch..... at the same height as the switch... where the guage bezel and dash pad meet. That, is infact, the top of the bezel overhanging the dash pad about a good 1/4''
Hammadown
Last edited by hammadown; 10-29-2008 at 11:31 PM.
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That's exactly what mine looks like. Original top dash pad, just a new bezel, and it sticks out just like yours.
I'm determined to take it apart again and mess with it until it looks better. I can't believe people paid $6K for a car back in '69 and didn't complain about that poor fit!
I'm determined to take it apart again and mess with it until it looks better. I can't believe people paid $6K for a car back in '69 and didn't complain about that poor fit!
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Hi RMK,
All kinds of good suggestions here. They do look like Hammadown's. DW's right, it can be helped.... but you have to be SOOOOO careful that you don't break the bezel.
The upper dash pad shouldn't have a 'hump' in it. Even old pads still have a smooth arc in them.
My problem always seems to be in the bezel, not the pads.
Regards,
Alan
PS: In 71 other parts of the car had much worse problems than the bezel fit. Let's talk paint, chrome, radio, alternator, cracked intake manifold, leaks, leaks, leaks, leaks.
Why do you think birdcages are so rusty?
All kinds of good suggestions here. They do look like Hammadown's. DW's right, it can be helped.... but you have to be SOOOOO careful that you don't break the bezel.
The upper dash pad shouldn't have a 'hump' in it. Even old pads still have a smooth arc in them.
My problem always seems to be in the bezel, not the pads.
Regards,
Alan
PS: In 71 other parts of the car had much worse problems than the bezel fit. Let's talk paint, chrome, radio, alternator, cracked intake manifold, leaks, leaks, leaks, leaks.
Why do you think birdcages are so rusty?
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I think it was a combo, poor design on both parts from GM. Here is a factory original dash pad and dash bezel pictured I've saved.
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Besides ...... wasnt the ''weed'' real good back in the 60's & 70's
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On the ones like Wilcox posted if you use the radio as a "lever" you can still find a happy medium that doesnt look too bad.DON'T DON'T DON'T..try to push on the upper edge it will break....I was under the understanding the upper portion was "designed" to break in an accident.