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Melting Slicks
Joined: Jul 2006
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From: Baltimore MD
I just get tired of hearing 
like this,begrudge somebody that makes less money then them
Im ashamed to call people like this american.Also he thinks people get paid too much for putting one screw in,well i know for a fact he couldnt do it.Sixpack do a job putting that same screw in for 8 hours aday for 30 years,and dont think about taking a **** unless you get somebody to relieve you which might take a while,so just hold it.I know people ,many people that CANNOT do this simple easy job of putting one screw in everyday of their lives.
like this,begrudge somebody that makes less money then them Im ashamed to call people like this american.Also he thinks people get paid too much for putting one screw in,well i know for a fact he couldnt do it.Sixpack do a job putting that same screw in for 8 hours aday for 30 years,and dont think about taking a **** unless you get somebody to relieve you which might take a while,so just hold it.I know people ,many people that CANNOT do this simple easy job of putting one screw in everyday of their lives.
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Racer
Joined: Nov 2008
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From: Anaheim California
It doen't say much for you leader when he says on national TV that he would not give another consession when management is in Washington asking for a taxpayers bailout loan. I am sure that most of you Union guys are decent citizens but your leadership is corrupt. And I can say the same about Management. If it was just a fight between youselves I would not have such a strong opinion but the collective between Comnpany and Labor is now getting into my pocket.
Le Mans Master
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From: LONG ISLAND
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I tried to buy a Shelby GT and they weren't dealing. The dealers are all alike...greedy. Matter of fact I had the owner of the dealership tell me that he wouldn't have any problem selling the Shelby if I didn't buy it.
Hmmmm, wonder if he still has it? He also has some Stillens, some Roushes and a Kenny Bell sitting there.
At any rate, let's not blame the manufacturers for the sins of the dealers.
cc
Hmmmm, wonder if he still has it? He also has some Stillens, some Roushes and a Kenny Bell sitting there.
At any rate, let's not blame the manufacturers for the sins of the dealers.
cc
As usual any argument has 2 sides to a story.............now blame the dealer ??? c'mon you are talking about a limited amount of Shelby's produced " A SPECIALTY ITEM" the dealer has to eat too, he gives almost everything he sells away, & has an oppertunity to make money for once & you call it a sin ? They are a business just like any other. If something you have commands more money then another item, that is called "CAPITALISM" sell if for whatever you can get. I'm ceratin had it been a Ford Focus or an explorer you would have gotten & huge discount......So i'm assuming you think that a new 2009 ZR1 should be sold at invoice ..............GIMME A BREAK !!!!
Le Mans Master
Joined: Nov 2004
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From: North Alabama
As most do and there in lies the problem, in my opinion. You have a 30 year veteran making $XX.XX an hour. Given his whole life learning the business and dedicated to the same company and a new hire starts out and makes the same $XX.XX an hour??? WTH? I'll tell you my story. I was once union for several years. One day I was sitting across the table from a fellow employee that had been with the company 37 years. I had been there for 5 at the time. We made the same wage per hour. I put myself in his shoes and asked myself how I would feel about that in 32 years for some young punk to come in and be making the same wage per hour. It made absolutely no sense to me. I changed jobs. I feel you should be paid based on merit, not based on what everyone else makes in the business. I am not anti union. I just don't agree with their purpose
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From: LONG ISLAND
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Happy Thanksgiving to ALL:
Union & non .................have a safe, relaxing, day.
Enjoy your families, food, & drink.
Be thankful your an American, there is no other place on earth like it !!!
Oh.............. & be thankful for being a CORVETTE owner !!!!
ZIXXXPACKER
Union & non .................have a safe, relaxing, day.
Enjoy your families, food, & drink.
Be thankful your an American, there is no other place on earth like it !!!
Oh.............. & be thankful for being a CORVETTE owner !!!!
ZIXXXPACKER
Melting Slicks
Joined: Jul 2006
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From: Baltimore MD
As most do and there in lies the problem, in my opinion. You have a 30 year veteran making $XX.XX an hour. Given his whole life learning the business and dedicated to the same company and a new hire starts out and makes the same $XX.XX an hour??? WTH? I'll tell you my story. I was once union for several years. One day I was sitting across the table from a fellow employee that had been with the company 37 years. I had been there for 5 at the time. We made the same wage per hour. I put myself in his shoes and asked myself how I would feel about that in 32 years for some young punk to come in and be making the same wage per hour. I made absolutely no sense to me. I changed jobs. I feel you should be paid based on merit, not based on what everyone else makes in the business. I am not anti union. I just don't agree with their purpose
I guess i should have clarified that the new guy has to be qualified and be able to do the job.Like say iron worker,you must pass a test and know how to do iron work,its the same in the other trades.But when it comes to labor work most of them get paid the same.There are different rates of pay according to what you know or your trade.Where i work its 1 through 5 rates of pay.I am a 3,and i have no problem if someone new comes in and gets a 4 or 5 , he will be qualified to do that job or trade.We have just about every trade there is at my work,we are very diverse.
Melting Slicks
Joined: Jul 2006
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From: Baltimore MD
Happy Thanksgiving to ALL:
Union & non .................have a safe, relaxing, day.
Enjoy your families, food, & drink.
Be thankful your an American, there is no other place on earth like it !!!
Oh.............. & be thankful for being a CORVETTE owner !!!!
ZIXXXPACKER
Union & non .................have a safe, relaxing, day.
Enjoy your families, food, & drink.
Be thankful your an American, there is no other place on earth like it !!!
Oh.............. & be thankful for being a CORVETTE owner !!!!
ZIXXXPACKER
HAPPY THANKSGIVING everyone.and to you sixpack and yours .I guess we can agree to differ on this subject but we can be corvette brothers
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Just because i drive a BENZ doesnt mean i'm not a dedicated, hardworking, "GM" employee........ 20+ years.
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