what a mess!
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Burning Brakes
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From: Clarksville Indiana
what a mess!
Engine/trans assembly are ready, gotta make a pretty hole for it to sit in. I thought I would just degrease, touch up paint, clean up wiring a little and be done.. no way did that happen.. like everything goes, its got more and more involved as more and more stuff had to be pulled and removed.. my OCD kickin in as usual.. Hope I can get all this mess figured out and back together. Still dont know what I want to do with it, gloss black, flat black, both? re-plate or paint, alter anything from stock? As always, any cool suggestions are very much appreciated!
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Team Owner
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From: Westminster Maryland
Hi 71454,
Take a look at some of David Mayhew's recent posts. He's been working on his LT-1's engine and compartment; his workmanship and pictures should give you some ideas and inspiration.
Regards,
Alan
Take a look at some of David Mayhew's recent posts. He's been working on his LT-1's engine and compartment; his workmanship and pictures should give you some ideas and inspiration.
Regards,
Alan
Burning Brakes
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From: Abingdon MD
"Put the Rattle Can on the workbench slowly and get your hands in the air!" Pretty good NCRS Police impersonation, huh?
Seriously though, you have a car and engine worthy of a good engine compartment detailing. The overspray shown here is just not cool.
Do it now, while the engine is out of the car. Search the Forum for "engine compartment detailing" ideas.
Rickman
Seriously though, you have a car and engine worthy of a good engine compartment detailing. The overspray shown here is just not cool.
Do it now, while the engine is out of the car. Search the Forum for "engine compartment detailing" ideas.
Rickman
Drifting
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From: Springfield Illinois
I had thought about painting my engine compartment.. BUT, the other day I just so happened to find a car on ebay that had the engine compartment painted black but the paint was peeling every where! Is it worth painting the engine compartment or is it better to leave it unpainted like the factory did?
Le Mans Master
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From: Newburgh NY
"Put the Rattle Can on the workbench slowly and get your hands in the air!" Pretty good NCRS Police impersonation, huh?
Seriously though, you have a car and engine worthy of a good engine compartment detailing. The overspray shown here is just not cool.
Do it now, while the engine is out of the car. Search the Forum for "engine compartment detailing" ideas.
Rickman
Seriously though, you have a car and engine worthy of a good engine compartment detailing. The overspray shown here is just not cool.
Do it now, while the engine is out of the car. Search the Forum for "engine compartment detailing" ideas.
Rickman
Could not agree more. I would take LOTS and LOTS of pictures, buy an AIM (Assembly Instruction Manual) then rip the @!#$ out of it. There will be a hit to the pocket ka-ching-ka-ching, but it will be worth it in the end.
I would replace all vacuum lines and the engine and headlight harness or retape the ones you have if they are good. It's a tedious job but will look great and save money by retaping. If there are splices and loose ends, replace.
Pull the booster (a crummy job) and everything off the firewall and clean them up and either paint or powdercoat them original or whatever colors you want and like after looking at other engines.
As the saying goes, it's all in the details. You want to open the hood, especially with the BB under there, stand back and worry about wiping the smile off your face.
Team Owner
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From: Westminster Maryland
Hi F90,
I believe the factory did paint the inner fenders, and cowl with semi-flat black paint during a process called blackout. There was NOT a lot of paint but there was some.
People duplicate this process to varying degrees as they see fit.
I believe you see peeling paint because the surface wasn't prepared properly. Detailing an engine compartment is a tremendous amount of work.
Regards,
Alan
I believe the factory did paint the inner fenders, and cowl with semi-flat black paint during a process called blackout. There was NOT a lot of paint but there was some.
People duplicate this process to varying degrees as they see fit.
I believe you see peeling paint because the surface wasn't prepared properly. Detailing an engine compartment is a tremendous amount of work.
Regards,
Alan
Drifting
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From: Sault Ste. Marie Ontario
Another chance to show off my engine bay. I love it.
Seriously, as others have said this is your perfect time to clean everything up. Do a little at a time.
Pull the old parts, clean them up, find out what finish the factory used, paint or plate them then tag them so you know where everything goes back on.
Paint your inner fenders & firewall a nice satin black, clean up & rewrap your wire harnesses and make a nice new home for the motor.
Good to go!
Seriously, as others have said this is your perfect time to clean everything up. Do a little at a time.
Pull the old parts, clean them up, find out what finish the factory used, paint or plate them then tag them so you know where everything goes back on.
Paint your inner fenders & firewall a nice satin black, clean up & rewrap your wire harnesses and make a nice new home for the motor.
Good to go!
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Burning Brakes
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From: Clarksville Indiana
nice pics guys, they look awsome.. did you guys replate those parts that were originaly plated or are they painted now? boosters/accuators/hood latches/relays/ect..
Alan I saw your pics in another post the other day, thats the inspiration that has mine all stripped down now. I'm farther along now, most everything is at least loose and pulled away now.
Alan I saw your pics in another post the other day, thats the inspiration that has mine all stripped down now. I'm farther along now, most everything is at least loose and pulled away now.
Drifting
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From: Nixa Missouri
nice pics guys, they look awsome.. did you guys replate those parts that were originaly plated or are they painted now? boosters/accuators/hood latches/relays/ect..
Alan I saw your pics in another post the other day, thats the inspiration that has mine all stripped down now. I'm farther along now, most everything is at least loose and pulled away now.
Alan I saw your pics in another post the other day, thats the inspiration that has mine all stripped down now. I'm farther along now, most everything is at least loose and pulled away now.
Check out the thread "Engine Detailing". I bumped back up to the top. Check out all the engine bays in the different post. No overspray in the pictures. With your engine out now is the time to do the detailing. Trust me I know, I'm detailing my engine bay with everything in and I started in november and just replaced the radiator yesterday.
Good Luck.
Drifting
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From: Springfield Illinois
Hi F90,
I believe the factory did paint the inner fenders, and cowl with semi-flat black paint during a process called blackout. There was NOT a lot of paint but there was some.
People duplicate this process to varying degrees as they see fit.
I believe you see peeling paint because the surface wasn't prepared properly. Detailing an engine compartment is a tremendous amount of work.
Regards,
Alan
I believe the factory did paint the inner fenders, and cowl with semi-flat black paint during a process called blackout. There was NOT a lot of paint but there was some.
People duplicate this process to varying degrees as they see fit.
I believe you see peeling paint because the surface wasn't prepared properly. Detailing an engine compartment is a tremendous amount of work.
Regards,
Alan
Your knowledge on these cars never ceases to amaze me! What did you/ would you recommend that I detail my compartment with? High temp engine paint?
Another chance to show off my engine bay. I love it.
Seriously, as others have said this is your perfect time to clean everything up. Do a little at a time.
Pull the old parts, clean them up, find out what finish the factory used, paint or plate them then tag them so you know where everything goes back on.
Paint your inner fenders & firewall a nice satin black, clean up & rewrap your wire harnesses and make a nice new home for the motor.
Good to go!
Seriously, as others have said this is your perfect time to clean everything up. Do a little at a time.
Pull the old parts, clean them up, find out what finish the factory used, paint or plate them then tag them so you know where everything goes back on.
Paint your inner fenders & firewall a nice satin black, clean up & rewrap your wire harnesses and make a nice new home for the motor.
Good to go!
What kind of paint did you pint you engine compartment with? Also, this is a little off topic, but are you going put the original hood back on or aftermarket?
Drifting
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From: Sault Ste. Marie Ontario
Alan,
Your knowledge on these cars never ceases to amaze me! What did you/ would you recommend that I detail my compartment with? High temp engine paint?
I haven't been following your resto as much as I would like to.. Looks like everything is coming along just well! I have a couple questions for you.. I hope the OP doesn't mind.
What kind of paint did you pint you engine compartment with? Also, this is a little off topic, but are you going put the original hood back on or aftermarket?
Your knowledge on these cars never ceases to amaze me! What did you/ would you recommend that I detail my compartment with? High temp engine paint?
I haven't been following your resto as much as I would like to.. Looks like everything is coming along just well! I have a couple questions for you.. I hope the OP doesn't mind.
What kind of paint did you pint you engine compartment with? Also, this is a little off topic, but are you going put the original hood back on or aftermarket?
As for the hood, my clearance issues forced me to go with an L88 aftermarket piece. Since that picture, I've been able to get a drop base unit with a 3" high filter.
Team Owner
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From: Westminster Maryland
Hi F90,
Thanks very much for your comment. I know a lot about SB 70-72 cars and that's it. It gets real thin real fast beyond that!!!
As EAST (GREAT PICTURE, IAN) said, semi-gloss or semi-flat black, is what works best for 'black-out'. I like the old Krylon #1613, but its getting very hard to find. I hear people say they like a brandcalled SEMS and also John Deere Blitz Black.
I think the clue to a good looking compartment is to have things clean and to try to figure out what was on each part originally and then to try to duplicate that. People are having the wiper and headlight actuators re-plated although I came up with a system to use paint since I couldn't fit the $$$ into my budget.
There really are pictures of people doing great work here. You can go through them to see how people are handling varous parts. The NCRS TECHNICAL MANUAL for your year car is a good source for finishes too.
Regards,
Alan
Thanks very much for your comment. I know a lot about SB 70-72 cars and that's it. It gets real thin real fast beyond that!!!
As EAST (GREAT PICTURE, IAN) said, semi-gloss or semi-flat black, is what works best for 'black-out'. I like the old Krylon #1613, but its getting very hard to find. I hear people say they like a brandcalled SEMS and also John Deere Blitz Black.
I think the clue to a good looking compartment is to have things clean and to try to figure out what was on each part originally and then to try to duplicate that. People are having the wiper and headlight actuators re-plated although I came up with a system to use paint since I couldn't fit the $$$ into my budget.
There really are pictures of people doing great work here. You can go through them to see how people are handling varous parts. The NCRS TECHNICAL MANUAL for your year car is a good source for finishes too.
Regards,
Alan
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Burning Brakes
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From: Clarksville Indiana
I got a little more done over the weekend. I have done all I can do to avoid the booster removal but I run out after the forward wiring and headlight vac hoses are all out now. I took off the wiper grill/covers and there is a 4x6 or so access plate going into the box the booster bolts to, does anybody know whats in there? will it help with the booster or installing my manual pedal assembly. The bolts are rusty, I dont want to chance breaking them off if theres nothing in there.. man my work bench is covered with parts to refurbish.. has anybody seen anybody polish the brass coolant tank instead of painting it? I hit a spot on it with the polishing wheel on my grinder and its so pretty! lol
Melting Slicks
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From: Airdrie Alberta
Looks like you're getting there.All part of the fun working on these cars 
I removed everything and painted the compartment krylon semi gloss, cleaned /replaced wiring harness, vacume lines etc.... and buffed the valve covers
I removed everything and painted the compartment krylon semi gloss, cleaned /replaced wiring harness, vacume lines etc.... and buffed the valve covers
Drifting
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From: Sault Ste. Marie Ontario
I got a little more done over the weekend. I have done all I can do to avoid the booster removal but I run out after the forward wiring and headlight vac hoses are all out now. I took off the wiper grill/covers and there is a 4x6 or so access plate going into the box the booster bolts to, does anybody know whats in there? will it help with the booster or installing my manual pedal assembly. The bolts are rusty, I dont want to chance breaking them off if theres nothing in there.. man my work bench is covered with parts to refurbish.. has anybody seen anybody polish the brass coolant tank instead of painting it? I hit a spot on it with the polishing wheel on my grinder and its so pretty! lol
I expect a post from you shortly that reads "how the %&#@ do you access the booster nuts?"
Good Luck!
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Burning Brakes
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From: Clarksville Indiana
lol.. I have already seen enough in here to know its a pain. Thats why I have avoided it till no choice. I have got to change the pedals to manual so at least I'm not doing it all just to detail, but I would have anyway..OCD kicks in and it all comes apart sooner or later..
Team Owner
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From: Westminster Maryland
Hi 71,
You're right about "it all comes apart sooner or later". I found that if you want 'the look', each part, nut, bolt, clip, wire, hose, etc. needs to be treated separately. It's the only good use I've found for my OCD.
Regards,
Alan
You're right about "it all comes apart sooner or later". I found that if you want 'the look', each part, nut, bolt, clip, wire, hose, etc. needs to be treated separately. It's the only good use I've found for my OCD.
Regards,
Alan