Power Steering Conversion
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Melting Slicks
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From: Piedmont Va
St. Jude Donor '11-'12-'13,'19-'20
Power Steering Conversion
Greetings,
Were getting ready to pull the motor for a good stroking. While shes down were upgrading to Power Steering. I thought about going the jeep route but decided against that much fabrication. So looking at conversion kits I find the following:
Corvette Central $799.00
http://www.parts123.com/parts123/yb....Z5Z5Z50000050G
Ecklers $939.99
http://www.ecklers.com/product.asp?p...6&dept_id=1828
So other than Ecklers gives you a quart of fluid, what the difference in these kit's. Is it possible the Ecklers kit is of sufficient higher quality to justify the price difference? I am concerned about some repro parts and am always willing to pay a little more for higher quality.....but something nagging says some or most of these parts originate at the same factory.
Any opinions? thanks in advance.
Were getting ready to pull the motor for a good stroking. While shes down were upgrading to Power Steering. I thought about going the jeep route but decided against that much fabrication. So looking at conversion kits I find the following:
Corvette Central $799.00
http://www.parts123.com/parts123/yb....Z5Z5Z50000050G
Ecklers $939.99
http://www.ecklers.com/product.asp?p...6&dept_id=1828
So other than Ecklers gives you a quart of fluid, what the difference in these kit's. Is it possible the Ecklers kit is of sufficient higher quality to justify the price difference? I am concerned about some repro parts and am always willing to pay a little more for higher quality.....but something nagging says some or most of these parts originate at the same factory.
Any opinions? thanks in advance.
Safety Car
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From: Forsyth Illinois
As long as you are in the US lower 48.....I will put the complete kit on your door step for 760.00.This is everything,but the belt.These are te same kits.
My supplier supplies most these kits to all these other places,so this is how i can make them cheaper like this.
Almost ALL the suppliers kits use a combination of new,and rebuilt Lonestar parts.About 90% of the PS parts,and calipers for vettes are Lonestar items outta TX.They are pretty much the same kits throughout the vette industry,and Lonestar is probably the best company out there.:cheers
If your car is a BB,then it is 900.00 shipped to your doorstep,but again,complate w/all the hardware,fluid,directions,etc.,except the belt.
Thanks,Kevin
My supplier supplies most these kits to all these other places,so this is how i can make them cheaper like this.
Almost ALL the suppliers kits use a combination of new,and rebuilt Lonestar parts.About 90% of the PS parts,and calipers for vettes are Lonestar items outta TX.They are pretty much the same kits throughout the vette industry,and Lonestar is probably the best company out there.:cheers
If your car is a BB,then it is 900.00 shipped to your doorstep,but again,complate w/all the hardware,fluid,directions,etc.,except the belt.
Thanks,Kevin
Melting Slicks
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From: Chetwynd B.C.
Kevin is GREAT to deal with. 
We talked on the phone and he answered all of my questions and helped me understand what I was getting into. 
I am patiently waiting for delivery as we speak. 
shmoky
PS he was also the LOWEST price I could find anywhere.
We talked on the phone and he answered all of my questions and helped me understand what I was getting into. I am patiently waiting for delivery as we speak. shmoky
PS he was also the LOWEST price I could find anywhere.
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St. Jude Donor '11, '17
What fabrication are you talking about? Sure, if you did it like Norval did then there's a lot of fab needed. If you order a kit from corvettesteering or VB&P then there's no fab work needed. Unless you needed a stock system for judging I'd never put one back on. But if that's what you want go with vettesbydesign.
Heel & Toe
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From: Limerick Ireland
As long as you are in the US lower 48.....I will put the complete kit on your door step for 760.00.This is everything,but the belt.These are te same kits.
My supplier supplies most these kits to all these other places,so this is how i can make them cheaper like this.
Almost ALL the suppliers kits use a combination of new,and rebuilt Lonestar parts.About 90% of the PS parts,and calipers for vettes are Lonestar items outta TX.They are pretty much the same kits throughout the vette industry,and Lonestar is probably the best company out there.:cheers
If your car is a BB,then it is 900.00 shipped to your doorstep,but again,complate w/all the hardware,fluid,directions,etc.,except the belt.
Thanks,Kevin
My supplier supplies most these kits to all these other places,so this is how i can make them cheaper like this.
Almost ALL the suppliers kits use a combination of new,and rebuilt Lonestar parts.About 90% of the PS parts,and calipers for vettes are Lonestar items outta TX.They are pretty much the same kits throughout the vette industry,and Lonestar is probably the best company out there.:cheers
If your car is a BB,then it is 900.00 shipped to your doorstep,but again,complate w/all the hardware,fluid,directions,etc.,except the belt.
Thanks,Kevin
Cheers tony
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Melting Slicks
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From: Piedmont Va
St. Jude Donor '11-'12-'13,'19-'20
What fabrication are you talking about? Sure, if you did it like Norval did then there's a lot of fab needed. If you order a kit from corvettesteering or VB&P then there's no fab work needed. Unless you needed a stock system for judging I'd never put one back on. But if that's what you want go with vettesbydesign.
Thanks all for the input.
Kevin, I will plan to look into this. If I stick with my plan to go with stock system I'll be in touch.
-patrick
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Thanks, I was under the impression that with all the integrated kit's that brake lines had to be re-located etc and bracket frame fab was required. Are you saying these unit's bolt right in ?....just basically R&I the steering box and install the pump and hoses?
Thanks all for the input.
Kevin, I will plan to look into this. If I stick with my plan to go with stock system I'll be in touch.
-patrick
Thanks all for the input.
Kevin, I will plan to look into this. If I stick with my plan to go with stock system I'll be in touch.
-patrick
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St. Jude Donor '11, '17
You just move the 2 brakes lines over a little bit, so they don't get squashed by the box. Of course you will need a pump. You can use any pump that will bolt on correctly, don't bother with a Corvette specific as they have a lower line pressure. (unless you are using a stock system, then you must use a Corvette pump).
If you are more comfortable with the stock system then please go that way. Many people here are perfectly happy with the stock unit.
If you are more comfortable with the stock system then please go that way. Many people here are perfectly happy with the stock unit.
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Integral Power Steering Box
Kevin,
I saw on another post that Ecklers has a new integral Power Steering box. Can you get hold of these? If so, what price on a package of Box, standard relay rod and coupler/rag joint? Maybe also with new hoses to suit. Also, how much to freight to Australia (and Ireland)? I'd be very interested.
Regards from Down Under
aussiejohn
5 months to go
I saw on another post that Ecklers has a new integral Power Steering box. Can you get hold of these? If so, what price on a package of Box, standard relay rod and coupler/rag joint? Maybe also with new hoses to suit. Also, how much to freight to Australia (and Ireland)? I'd be very interested.
Regards from Down Under
aussiejohn
5 months to go
Safety Car
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From: Forsyth Illinois
Kevin,
I saw on another post that Ecklers has a new integral Power Steering box. Can you get hold of these? If so, what price on a package of Box, standard relay rod and coupler/rag joint? Maybe also with new hoses to suit. Also, how much to freight to Australia (and Ireland)? I'd be very interested.
Regards from Down Under
aussiejohn
5 months to go
I saw on another post that Ecklers has a new integral Power Steering box. Can you get hold of these? If so, what price on a package of Box, standard relay rod and coupler/rag joint? Maybe also with new hoses to suit. Also, how much to freight to Australia (and Ireland)? I'd be very interested.
Regards from Down Under
aussiejohn
5 months to go
I will pm you,so we arn't jumping in the this guys thread.
Safety Car
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I Do wanna touch on this,so everyone knows what the differences are for the standard SB,and hi-perf.The difference is in the size of the pulleys,and their apperance.These are not original GM replacement pieces,but made from the same material to look exactly like the GMs from the factory.
I have no problem shipping/mailing overseas to you guys,but will be pricey.I just spent a hundred dollar bill to get one to schmok in Canda.
Last edited by vettesbydesign; Mar 13, 2009 at 06:46 AM.
Melting Slicks
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You just move the 2 brakes lines over a little bit, so they don't get squashed by the box. Of course you will need a pump. You can use any pump that will bolt on correctly, don't bother with a Corvette specific as they have a lower line pressure. (unless you are using a stock system, then you must use a Corvette pump).
I installed the Corvette Steering conversion in mine, haven't driven it yet so I can't comment on that. But, the install was very easy, just unbolted one brake line clip and pushed it over. Although the body was off at the time.
Someone posted this as an option also:
http://www.borgeson.com/POWER%20STEE...acements.html#
Jim
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St. Jude Donor '11, '17
I installed the Corvette Steering conversion in mine, haven't driven it yet so I can't comment on that. But, the install was very easy, just unbolted one brake line clip and pushed it over. Although the body was off at the time.
Someone posted this as an option also:
http://www.borgeson.com/POWER%20STEE...acements.html#
Jim
Someone posted this as an option also:
http://www.borgeson.com/POWER%20STEE...acements.html#
Jim
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Melting Slicks
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From: Piedmont Va
St. Jude Donor '11-'12-'13,'19-'20
Vb&p
I looked at the Borgeson unit as well and had the same concerns about the installation. no reviews posted and product has only been listed since 2/9/09. So even though the price is right I hesitate on this one.
Looking at this kit from VB&P, even though it's a pricey it looks quite attractive. Anybody have any comments on this one? Is this the concept one box? I've had good luck with VB&P in the past. I'm thinkin' this may be the way to go.
http://www.vbandp.com/detail.aspx?ID=994
Update: Looks like Ecklers is selling the Borgeson kit with the same comments about a steering shaft modification. I'm going to try and call borgeson today and get more info on this or try and get them to share the install manual if they have one.
Looking at this kit from VB&P, even though it's a pricey it looks quite attractive. Anybody have any comments on this one? Is this the concept one box? I've had good luck with VB&P in the past. I'm thinkin' this may be the way to go.
http://www.vbandp.com/detail.aspx?ID=994
Update: Looks like Ecklers is selling the Borgeson kit with the same comments about a steering shaft modification. I'm going to try and call borgeson today and get more info on this or try and get them to share the install manual if they have one.
Last edited by CheezMoe; Mar 13, 2009 at 11:52 AM. Reason: Update
Le Mans Master
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What fabrication are you talking about? Sure, if you did it like Norval did then there's a lot of fab needed. If you order a kit from corvettesteering or VB&P then there's no fab work needed. Unless you needed a stock system for judging I'd never put one back on. But if that's what you want go with vettesbydesign.
If you want stock then by all means get that kit, but there is not any fabrication to the Jeep box to speak of. I have stock on mine (with Lonestar parts, which are very good), but if I had it to do again, I would go with the Jeep box. They drive so nicely. My .02