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From: Graceland in a Not Correctly Restored Stingray
Originally Posted by Mark L. Warner
...What I have "heard" over the years is that the big block makes the Vette too nose-heavy, they overheat too easily, and they take up way too much space in the engine compartment...
I might refer you to my previous post on the weight "issue"
Originally Posted by TheSkunkWorks
...the difference between an iron SB w/alum intake and an iron BB w/alum intake is apparently ~160#. Install aluminum heads on the latter and we're only talking about ~95#...
FWIW, if you've got the budget, an all aluminum BB weighs a bit less than an iron SB. In any event, to think that a BB Vette can't be properly balanced for excellent handling is a fundamental mistake.
As for overheating, I took a moderately hot rodded BB Vette out for a cruise (which included some cross-town traffic) on the hottest day ever recorded here in Memphis without issue; and it wasn't "dry heat" either. It's all about having a sufficient cooling system for the engine in question. And, IMHO they aren't that difficult to work on.
I might refer you to my previous post on the weight "issue"
FWIW, if you've got the budget, an all aluminum BB weighs a bit less than an iron SB. In any event, to think that a BB Vette can't be properly balanced for excellent handling is a fundamental mistake.
As for overheating, I took a moderately hot rodded BB Vette out for a cruise (which included some cross-town traffic) on the hottest day ever recorded here in Memphis without issue; and it wasn't "dry heat" either. It's all about having a sufficient cooling system for the engine in question. And, IMHO they aren't that difficult to work on.
I've had my 68BB out in 100 degree weather here in SoCal and granted she got hotter than normal,but never overheated.
I think this is an interesting question and should not be taken personally. Some day when this economy recovers and I actually have some cash, I will be looking at the same question: that is, 427 big block or 427 small block. I have had many, many small blocks but never a big block. What I have "heard" over the years is that the big block makes the Vette too nose-heavy, they overheat too easily, and they take up way too much space in the engine compartment. I even heard you have to raise the engine to change the spark plugs.
So.... How does the debate change with respect to big-inch small blocks vs. big blocks? What about the REAL weight differences? How about cost differences; cost to build, cost to maintain, cost per hp? Etc., etc. Can anyone address these questions unemotionally? I love the thought of having a big block, I just want to be logical about it when I am in a position to make the call.
The big block only makes the car "nose heavy" if you are planning to run it on a road course. For normal everyday driving I sincerely doubt you can tell the difference in handling.
As far as taking up too much space in the engine compartment, have you looked at a C5 or C6?
With respect to the overheating issue, I've only had my 72 for 2.5 years but I do drive it and drive it hard regardless of the outside temperature. It has not overheated yet and summer in Kansas can be pretty brutal. We get strings of days where the temperature gets over 100 and it's 90 at night.
One of the first things I did when I got my car was change the plugs. Did not have to raise the engine and did them all from the top. Some plugs are easier to get from the bottom or through the wheel well control arm opening especially if you have A/C.
No different than changing plugs on the 85, 93 and 96 Trans Ams I used to own.
Keep in mind also that with a small block Corvette you have all that ignition shielding to deal with. I watched a friend replace plugs in a 60 and there were several blind wing bolts he had to remove just to get to the plugs.
When I bought my 69 coupe I was actually looking for a small block, but this big block came along and was too good a deal to pass up. If I had gotten the small block, I probably would have been happy, but having this car (L-36) now I would trade it for any small block ever...ever...ever! Its just personal preference, but the BB offers me more of what I really wanted after all. ENJOY IT-DRIVE IT-LOVE IT-FIX IT (not necessarily in that order).
OBTW: On my car, some of the plugs are easier reached through the fender wells/suspension, but never had to riase the motor. My air-conditioning is what makes that necessary...
From: Common courtesy and common sense are not common.
St. Jude Donor '09-'10-'11-'12-'13
Originally Posted by hdpete98
My 71 small block is more balanced when going through the turns than my big block. The bb throws you back and makes you say sh&t! If I had to pick one.......I wouldn't, I would get rid of whatever was making me pick.
Now that were on the subject, I have been thinking about putting a BB in my numbers matching 72 SB,I don`t plan on selling it but if I did would I lose alot if kept the SB engine to go with it ?
My only regret is not being able to keep at least one of the two 1970 BB's I once owned! But, I just picked up a 68 BB conv. with no engine. Anybody got a BB engine they don't need!?!?
Yes I regret every time I think about it that It's a BB...... Wait a second who the hell could say they regret such a thing. Its like asking do you regret you won the lottery? I love my BB car whthout any regrets.
Is there a big vette following there? I was happy to see all of the eastern Europeans on here, and now someone in the sandbox...that is pretty cool.
How difficult is it to register your car there?
Oh yeah, there are hundreds of Corvettes here, most of them are C5s and C6s, with plenty of Z06s and I even saw a dark gray C6 ZR1! .. Also there at least 5 or 6 chrome bumper big blocks here, so basically you wont miss anything if you leave US and stay here
People here love to see any classic car/muscle car and they do appreciate them very much. And its no problem to register a classic car here, you even get a more forgiving limits regarding pollution test if your car is more 35 years old.
My only regret is that I sold my new 70 BB when I got married and raised a family. I have the Serial Number (they did not have VIN numbers back then) and have tried on a few occasions to see if I could find it but I have not been successful.
So I must admit, this thread has got me re-thinking the whole thing. In light of the fact that money will keep me from doing anything real soon anyway, i have time to do more "homework." Can y'all address a few more things relative to Big Blocks? What about side-pipes? Are aftermarket side-pipes and headers available for big blocks or are they only for the small blocks? What about hydro-boost brakes and rack and pinion steering; any clearance issues with these if you go big block? What about the Tremec 5 spd conversions? Are the big blocks dimensionally longer; is there anything about a big block vs small block that would prevent the 5 spd conversion? Please excuse my questions if they appear basic. I have done about a dozen small block projects but never a big block and frankly if I can justify it, I would love to finally have one.
So I must admit, this thread has got me re-thinking the whole thing. In light of the fact that money will keep me from doing anything real soon anyway, i have time to do more "homework." Can y'all address a few more things relative to Big Blocks? What about side-pipes? Are aftermarket side-pipes and headers available for big blocks or are they only for the small blocks? What about hydro-boost brakes and rack and pinion steering; any clearance issues with these if you go big block? What about the Tremec 5 spd conversions? Are the big blocks dimensionally longer; is there anything about a big block vs small block that would prevent the 5 spd conversion? Please excuse my questions if they appear basic. I have done about a dozen small block projects but never a big block and frankly if I can justify it, I would love to finally have one.
About the side pipes and the hydroboost, I can assure that they can fit a BB, I already have a hydroboost and used to have factory style side pipes.
No as for the remaining things, I saw at least one big block that has all these mods, so basically yes, you can have them in a BB.
My only regret is that I sold my new 70 BB when I got married and raised a family. I have the Serial Number (they did not have VIN numbers back then) and have tried on a few occasions to see if I could find it but I have not been successful.
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There are only two types of Corvette owners. Those that want a Big Block Chevy in their Vette and those that have a Big Block Chevy in their Vette......
For anyone that fears the over-heating nature of a big block, just think of my car as a sample : a BBC engine with 9:1 comp. and A/C , in the harsh summer in the middle east. In my case, the summer of Texas or Florida is like a spring here!