Name one automobile which is mass produced that's still 100% American made. Anyone, anyone?

 

Are you willing to take a pay and benefits cut, and work you butt off to do your job right the first time, in order to accomplish this? Most Americans will say "hell no!" and that's what got this country in a mess in the first place - including bad foreign policies which rewarded US businesses for opening shop overseas.

 

I don't want to be with any politician either but where does the money for the program come from. Just another way to transfer the wealth. Take for me and give to someone else. BTW, where is it green to take a car that runs and distroy it, only to replace it with a "newer model".

 

YES we are there now, I had much better benefits in the 60s and 70s than now, I am glad I had a retirement fund or else I would be in a hurt now, there was no 401k or other things then,you work and pay into fund and now it is paying off. I agree with bad foreign policies we were sold out for money and profits and we let it happen.

 

Everyone needs to go look at the video I posted in the More Cash for Clunkers thread. It's pretty shocking.

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I am trying to stay out of the discussion, but transferring the wealth from one to another has been going on since the 80's. The middle class is disappearing, the wealth has gone to the top 2%. This has been through tax policy, market deregulation and fiscal policy. If you disagree, that's fine. But I suggest you study Macro Economics rather than listen to cable news (cable news is kinda like big time wrestling). Even the great Alan Greenspan has come to this conclusion.

 

http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/...kers-web-site/

 

Sure it's easy. Support america and american jobs.

 

Partner, your talking about assembly points. Look at the domestic content on the window sticker. Alot more jobs are supported by your purchase than just those assembly jobs.

 

You mean like your 100% japanese made car? I can't do it. But i'd settle for 60-70%. That;s a lot better than 0%

 

So what are you saying? More wealth transfer, more taxes, more goverment deciding where my money is spent. I guess just sit back and take the screwing... Maybe you are ok with that but not me.

 

You're right...

The Camry has over 75% domestic content...

The new Camaro & '10 Mustang are around 60%........

At least the Mustang is U.S. built.............

 

 

We ended up passing on the program. Selection was limited, interest rates are still a little high for me(highier than 2%), and it was hard to swallow trading a perfectly good truck that would be crushed.

Also, it seemed like the dealerships were treating the money like it was theirs before you walked in the door. They weren't even following the law and giving the consumer the scrap value of the car and if they did it was only $50. Load of BS there.

 

Then run them at 2000 rpm's till they die!

 

I watched a video on Friday of a perfectly nice ~'90 Chevy short wheelbase pickup that got traded. The guy says almost new tires. They pour that stuff in, lock the motor, forklift to the coolant, drain the fluids, and into the crusher she goes. This is so wrong on several points IMHO.
1-why waste new tires? Surely with as hard as it is to get tires they could at least recycle those? Isn't that more green than into the crusher? Who does this help?
2-That was a perfectly nice vehicle for somebody. The TBI motors are so reliable, why couldn't that truck be used by somebody who can't afford a new one? It is probably better than most "clunkers" that are out there. No rust to be seen when they rolled it around with the forklift. Who does this help?
3-No body parts or drivetrain salvaged-perfectly good 700R4 and rearend gone. I know those trucks don't bring what they did 10 years ago, but perfectly nice spare parts-gone! No effort to segregate metals or anything. Who does this help?
4-If we flood the market with scrap metal-where does it go?-what does that do to the price? $1B at $4500/car is roughly 1/4 million cars. If you average 3500lbs/car you get around 3/4billion lbs of scrap cars that will hit the market in the next 6 months. Who does this help?


WE and our children will be paying for all this "free help" for a long time to come. In more ways than money and taxes. My .02

 

Schnitzer Steel Industries (operates in the US and Canada) is one scrap metal recycler who has contracts with auto dealers for the clunkers program. Their subsidiaries are Green Leaf Auto Recyclers and Pick-N-Pull Auto Dismantlers. I use to hold shares of their stock when steel prices peaked not too long ago. All they'll do is resell the metals to some other company who'll then produce something else.

 

My car isn't 100% Japanese - its emissions control devices were designed and manufactured by an American electronics company. One of my relatives works for them who does business with a lot of Japanese companies. What many don't seem to understand is that the supply chains of many large foreign manufactures aren't totally tied to one country - they're all mostly outsourcing these days. Once again, people - it's a GLOBAL economy!

 

Yep! Handily. I get 22 mpg combined while "screwing around".

I found these two quotes funny:

...the government says that the federal Food and Drug Administration classifies sodium silicate as GRAS -- "generally regarded as safe."

Consisting largely of ingredients as common as salt and sand, sodium silicate isn't hard to make.

 

Last I heard Toyta and Honda were Japanese Companies, and while they may invest anywhere in the world, and yes they have factories here in the States, ultimately Japan is the main benificiary of their success.


I am not in the market for a new car. Will I get a goverment hand out of $4500 when I am ready to buy maybe in a couple years? No? Okay I don't think that is fair. Beleive it or not there are still alot of people in this country who beleive in buy American, is it fair for their tax dollars to be spent on cars they would never buy.

I suppose you and I will disagree on the facts, but I find it kind of sad and a little embaressing that more then 50% of this goverment subsidy goes to foreign nameplate vehicles.

There are none. But a few years back the Vette was the most American. Don't know it that is still the case anymore.