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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 07:07 PM
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I just recently became the owner of a 1976 vette and after learning how to lower the front, I'm now troubleshooting the uneven height of the rear, right rear is higher than left. After crawling underneath the car I can see that the right side of the spring is sitting lower than the left. I then noticed that the bracket that the spring bolt attaches to is rotated lower on the right side.


Can this be rotated back??? How can I correct this??
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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 08:59 PM
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The only thing that is SUPPOSED to affect rear ride height in the length of the spring bolts from the T/A's to the ends of the spring. I can't see the pic, but the spring has no "bracket" per se. If I were you I'd test the rear shocks for sticking first and go from there. Also the T/A bushings and strut-rod bushings come into play to a greater or lesser degree.
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Originally Posted by alyle5864
I just recently became the owner of a 1976 vette and after learning how to lower the front, I'm now troubleshooting the uneven height of the rear, right rear is higher than left. After crawling underneath the car I can see that the right side of the spring is sitting lower than the left. I then noticed that the bracket that the spring bolt attaches to is rotated lower on the right side.


Can this be rotated back??? How can I correct this??
The right bolt is longer that the left. Compare the bolt end in relation to the rim edge on both sides. See it? You need adjust the bolt at the bottom to level it out.
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GD70, I'm sorry but I don't think I am following you. Are you talking about the spring bolts? I will try to get under and measure the bolts this weekend. I think I am going to pull the tires, shocks and unbolt the spring to see I can determine the problem
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Old Oct 10, 2009 | 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by alyle5864
I just recently became the owner of a 1976 vette and after learning how to lower the front, I'm now troubleshooting the uneven height of the rear, right rear is higher than left. After crawling underneath the car I can see that the right side of the spring is sitting lower than the left. I then noticed that the bracket that the spring bolt attaches to is rotated lower on the right side.


Can this be rotated back??? How can I correct this??
I have the same problem with my 76, its like one side is twisted down. Im getting a good 5/8 diff. and car sits 3/4 low on driverside. I noticed this after changing the spring, bolts and bushings thinking that was the prob. The only things I could think to correct is to change torque arms or shim the low side. Let me know if you figure anything out, also what did you do to lower your front end? Thanks Mike in Ct.
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What I notice is that the rubber cushions are more compressed on the left side as well. Assuming that the trailing arms go up and down OK and that the shocks are not binding, the way to level it is to replace the cushions (with urethane ones) and then use the bolts to level it. Remember that the car "hangs" from those two bolts so to speak. You can get some adjustment with the nuts and if no tenough use a couple big fender washers to shim it.

The left is probably a little lower because of driver weight over many, many years, but you can compensate.

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Old Oct 10, 2009 | 11:56 AM
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Hi,
Does anyone see a difference in the 'curve' of the first leaf on the driver's side compared to the passenger's side? Is this the cause or the result of the difference in ride height?
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Does anyone see a difference in the 'curve' of the first leaf on the driver's side compared to the passenger's side? Is this the cause or the result of the difference in ride height?
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Yes I see it Alan,. I also see that this appears to be an original spring that is now 33 years old.

Let's not tell anybody the secret that many of these cars were off by 1/2-3/4" when they were new.........
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No matter what the cause; Assuming nothing is binding, the cure is still to replace the cushions and use the bolts to get it level. Or just get a whole new spring and be really done with it all.

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Update: I finally got the time to remove the spring bolts from both sides and let the spring hang. Immediately noticed that the right side did not hand down as far as the left. The right side is just over 1/2 inch higher from the floor than the left.

Is this common with older springs??
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This is common. Either shim with washers or replace the spring. If the car will not be NCRS Judged you may want to consider a fiberglass spring. Much improved ride and close to 40lbs. of weight savings.
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Originally Posted by Clams Canino
No matter what the cause; Assuming nothing is binding, the cure is still to replace the cushions and use the bolts to get it level. Or just get a whole new spring and be really done with it all.

-W
Old springs equals "sag". A nice upgraded spring would do you wonders...saves weight...levels things up...and reduces noise from the rear end. Throw on some polybushings while you are at it, and you have it made! Good luck to you.

And I too think the left side of the spring has flattened out somewhat. Factory defect or just wear and tear...who knows?

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My advice is to call VBP and order a new mono spring assy,,,,,problem solved and ride height is easy to adjust with the longer bolts and new cushions and the old dried rotted ones go in the trash can.

That is what I did and no regrets
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And I too think the left side of the spring has flattened out somewhat. Factory defect or just wear and tear...who knows?
Easy... the left seat is always used and sees about 200lbs more weight on it over many years.

For a visual image that hard to shake: Imagine a big fat Bubba driving in the left seat at 300lbs (not counting the beer) and his 80lb meth-head wife on the right.

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Originally Posted by Clams Canino
Easy... the left seat is always used and sees about 200lbs more weight on it over many years.

For a visual image that hard to shake: Imagine a big fat Bubba driving in the left seat at 300lbs (not counting the beer) and his 80lb meth-head wife on the right.

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To test that theory just flip the spring end for end and see if the other side is now lower.
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Originally Posted by noonie
To test that theory just flip the spring end for end and see if the other side is now lower.
Seems like a lot of effort to test theories...but then, who am I to say! If I were to go through the trouble of ripping out the rear spring, just put a new one in there, and that way you won't have to do this job twice. Just my .02.

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Originally Posted by Clams Canino
Easy... the left seat is always used and sees about 200lbs more weight on it over many years.

For a visual image that hard to shake: Imagine a big fat Bubba driving in the left seat at 300lbs (not counting the beer) and his 80lb meth-head wife on the right.

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I'm forever scarred now! Thanks!! I think the only thing worse than that is a 300lb wife and the guy is the 80 pounder! *shudder*

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