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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 03:53 PM
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Hi guys,

I'm usually in the C2 forum but wanted some assistance with a block I most likely be selling in the near future.

I have a 69 427 block, which I will be selling during the Spring of 2010, does anyone know what a fair selling price might be?
The pad is blank, unsure if it is standard bore, will be selling as a
bare block.
(block is currently in my car & has no issues)


thx.,
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 04:45 PM
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need some info...
what is the cast number, what is the cast date? How do you know it is from a '69?
You can start there. If it's a valuable (meaning mid-year to '69) Corvette 427, according to the cast number, it may be valuable. Also, the cast date will tell you what year(s) it is appropriate for.

If it's a '68 or '69 Corvette 427, it could be quite valuable ($2,000-$4,000) to the right restorer.

Since you came here to the C3 forum, I am assuming it isn't a mid-year 427, but it could be worth even more if it was for a '67.
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 10:07 PM
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If you find it's nothing special send me a PM. I've got a NOM 427 block that could use replacing in the future. Not interested in originality so if it's a valuable block find someone who needs it for their restoration.
Good luck
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 10:19 PM
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Looked through some records and confirm it's a 512 block, will have to verify casting date.
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by BrettG
Looked through some records and confirm it's a 512 block, will have to verify casting date.
3963512 was used in '69 for 427s and '70 and '71 for 454s. But also, 512s were used in Chevelles, Camaros, Monte Carlos in 69-71 models.

The casting date should be upside down near the freeze plugs, I think on the driver's side. It is not a rare block, but since it was used over 3 model years and at least 3 different models, there should be broad interest to restorers, if not great value.
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 11:26 PM
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Casting date of J 31 9 was located on the passenger side rear of the block, visible when looking down from the top.

Was it intended for a 1970 car?
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Old Oct 8, 2009 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by BrettG
Casting date of J 31 9 was located on the passenger side rear of the block, visible when looking down from the top.

Was it intended for a 1970 car?
J=October
31= 31st day (Halloween!!)
9=1969

depending on model runs (I think most start in the Sept-Oct months of the year previous to model year) and the fact that most blocks were cast several days to several months before being actually dropped in a car (NCRS actually gives up to 6 months between cast date and car build date), yes, very probable that this was for a 1970 model, which would make it certainly a 454, not a 427.

Check and see what Chevy models offered the 454 in 1970, but I do know that Corvette, Chevelle and Monte Carlo did, there may be others.

By the way, bake a cake, your block will be exactly 40 years old on October 31!!!
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that block could be for a 69 427 since they made 69s though dec of 69
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Originally Posted by LT-1 kid
that block could be for a 69 427 since they made 69s though dec of 69
LT-1 Kid is correct...'69s were made through December of 1969, the first 1970 models came in January of '70.

Given an October 31 '69 cast date, it very well could have been used in a 1969 427 (and probably was). According to prevailing opinion as well as NCRS rules, there is a window of up to 6 months for the block to be placed in a car, so this particular block is "appropriate" for a November or December '69 427, or a 1970 model 454 built in Jan-April of 1970.

Extrapolating production data, there were approximately 1,029 427's per month produced in the '69 model year, and 639 454's per month in 1970. So this is either one of about the last 2,000 427's ever made (pretty rare) or one of the first 2,500 454's.
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Is this a 2 or 4 bolt 512 block? Makes a difference in value. 512 castings were made both ways.

If it is a 4 bolt, look it over any other stampings. Late 69 casting could have also ended up in COPO Camaro or Chevelle - could significantly raise value. Going on memory, might be MN you are looking for.

3963512 427 68-69 Passenger 385,425 HP
3963512 427 69 Chevelle,Camaro COPO (Central Office Production Order)
3963512 427 69 Corvette Late 69
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Old Nov 20, 2009 | 09:43 PM
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Is the pad blank because the block was decked, or blank because it was never stamped? This will make a difference in value.
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Just to give you an idea what you may have. My 1970 454 Block is a K-7-9.
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