Corvette market Weak????
I don't think that the Vette market is "weak"..............my "noob" perspective from the last 3 months of research is that there are still "real" buyers out there willing to write a marker for the "good" cars.........
It is just that these buyers are not going to pay "crack money" anymore.....whether it be for the exceptional cars, or total rustbuckets. They'll still pay up, just not like they did in 2004-2007.
This is due to 4 things IMHO.....
1-the lack of "easy" credit related to residential real estate, or simply put, getting any credit at all. Taking credit buyers out of the market and leaving just the cash buyers reduces your pool by about 50-75%.
2-the depreciation inherent in C5's and the new C6 which is creating strong downward price pressure on older "collectible" cars.
3-the removal of price speculators/flippers from the marketplace. Even used Vette dealers who are market makers have had numerous sales with 25-35% off on some apparently nice C2 and C3's as of late........and not all of them are moving out the door either.
4-finally, and I think this is a big factor, I'm up to almost 150 hours of reading thru the threads here in the C3 section, and have learned more than I ever could have thru any other medium. Thanks to forums such as this, and the great people here, I can guarantee you that I won't be one of the few people still out there who are overpaying, and then posting here later on about how their car has such and such a financially catastrophic problem that they weren't aware of when they bought it.
Last edited by 10caipirinhas; Jan 22, 2010 at 12:59 PM.
I don't think that the Vette market is "weak"..............my "noob" perspective from the last 3 months of research is that there are still "real" buyers out there willing to write a marker for the "good" cars.........
It is just that these buyers are not going to pay "crack money" anymore.....whether it be for the exceptional cars, or total rustbuckets. They'll still pay up, just not like they did in 2004-2007.
This is due to 4 things IMHO.....
1-the lack of "easy" credit related to residential real estate, or simply put, getting any credit at all. Taking credit buyers out of the market and leaving just the cash buyers reduces your pool by about 50-75%.
2-the depreciation inherent in C5's and the new C6 which is creating strong downward price pressure on older "collectible" cars.
3-the removal of price speculators/flippers from the marketplace. Even used Vette dealers who are market makers have had numerous sales with 25-35% off on some apparently nice C2 and C3's as of late........and not all of them are moving out the door either.
4-finally, and I think this is a big factor, I'm up to almost 150 hours of reading thru the threads here in the C3 section, and have learned more than I ever could have thru any other medium. Thanks to forums such as this, and the great people here, I can guarantee you that I won't be one of the few people still out there who are overpaying, and then posting here later on about how their car has such and such a financially catastrophic problem that they weren't aware of when they bought it.
Good writeup. I agree. I bought my 81 this past summer, I think I got it at what would be called a good market price. There were cheaper cars, but the more I read about some issues from others here, I have none of those and feel real good about my purchase. It is not perfect, but what is? Research was my key as well. Good points...I think the market will begin to flow again and the prices will increase as discretionary income is let go of, it may take a few years and some political changes, but it will happen IMO.
I've got over 9,000 posts on Ferrari-Chat over the last 10 years I have been there........only my wife knows for sure what the total number of hours I spend online actually are, and I am too scared to ask her......why don't you ask yours, I am sure she knows ?
Last edited by 10caipirinhas; Jan 22, 2010 at 03:54 PM.
The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts
Judging by this photo, I would say this car was poorly taken care
of, I could only imagine what the under side of the car looks like.
I or any other intelligent buyer would not buy this car site unseen
and if the underside of the car is as tired as the engine compartment
you would be darn lucky to see $15,000 from this car.
Is that over spray in the engine compartment I see, if so just because
a vette has a newer paint job doesn't mean that it deserves top dollar,
I would ask what the newer paint may be hiding?
I think the market is very cold right now because no one is remortgaging
their homes any more to make an over inflated purchase, I think the
market will be like it is now for at least the next 6 to 8 years.
The current market will still bring good money to the cars that are in
great to excellent condition but for the cars that need restored the value
of them will continue to fall, I believe this to be true with all classics, not
just with corvettes.
Just my thoughts and how I would shop for a classic car now a days.
Riggs.

i have an 81 that i am doing and i have over 7K into it and i have only done the suspension, brakes and Exhaust. 10K will not cover very much.
http://broadmoor-motor-sales.ebizaut...y-4992332.html
http://broadmoor-motor-sales.ebizaut...y-4992332.html
Last edited by bobbarry; Jan 23, 2010 at 11:23 AM.
I don't think that the Vette market is "weak"..............my "noob" perspective from the last 3 months of research is that there are still "real" buyers out there willing to write a marker for the "good" cars.........
It is just that these buyers are not going to pay "crack money" anymore.....whether it be for the exceptional cars, or total rustbuckets. They'll still pay up, just not like they did in 2004-2007.
This is due to 4 things IMHO.....
1-the lack of "easy" credit related to residential real estate, or simply put, getting any credit at all. Taking credit buyers out of the market and leaving just the cash buyers reduces your pool by about 50-75%.
2-the depreciation inherent in C5's and the new C6 which is creating strong downward price pressure on older "collectible" cars.
3-the removal of price speculators/flippers from the marketplace. Even used Vette dealers who are market makers have had numerous sales with 25-35% off on some apparently nice C2 and C3's as of late........and not all of them are moving out the door either.
4-finally, and I think this is a big factor, I'm up to almost 150 hours of reading thru the threads here in the C3 section, and have learned more than I ever could have thru any other medium. Thanks to forums such as this, and the great people here, I can guarantee you that I won't be one of the few people still out there who are overpaying, and then posting here later on about how their car has such and such a financially catastrophic problem that they weren't aware of when they bought it.
The engine bay looked tired and there were some parts clearly jury rigged on the fuel line (post filter.) It also posessed a hurst shifter.
Add the buyers premium and it was $39,600.00. I also agree with the post about $10k not making a dent in these cars when it comes to a complete restoration. I know.
Best to the board, JP.
As for the car, the CORVETTE script above the license bezel looked to be missing with the holes glassed over, among other non-stock mods. Remember, cars ALWAYS look great under the lights on camera. Outside the circus that is BJ, I think the car was a $19k car at best. Unless you're pouring cocktails before showing it...
Thanks
http://broadmoor-motor-sales.ebizaut...y-4992332.html
Judging by this photo, I would say this car was poorly taken care
of, I could only imagine what the under side of the car looks like.
I or any other intelligent buyer would not buy this car site unseen
and if the underside of the car is as tired as the engine compartment
you would be darn lucky to see $15,000 from this car.
Is that over spray in the engine compartment I see, if so just because
a vette has a newer paint job doesn't mean that it deserves top dollar,
I would ask what the newer paint may be hiding?
I think the market is very cold right now because no one is remortgaging
their homes any more to make an over inflated purchase, I think the
market will be like it is now for at least the next 6 to 8 years.
The current market will still bring good money to the cars that are in
great to excellent condition but for the cars that need restored the value
of them will continue to fall, I believe this to be true with all classics, not
just with corvettes.
Just my thoughts and how I would shop for a classic car now a days.
Riggs.
Right on the money





















