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Old Apr 13, 2010 | 11:25 PM
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My 69 vette has flared fenders, 10 inch rear tires, changed small block to BB, side pipes, modified front grill with no front bumper, my main question is in the front bumper, do I need one and how big, what is the material the bumper is to be made of, must it be visable, ECT.
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Old Apr 14, 2010 | 09:06 AM
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Are you asking if you need the front bumper in order to get your vette registered in PA? I have mine registered in PA with classic plates and it's far from original unless you consider a 1980 convertible to be original.
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Old Apr 14, 2010 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Frankenvette
...Are you asking if you need the front bumper in order to get your vette registered in PA?...it's far from original unless you consider a 1980 convertible to be original.
Yes, but you have a front bumper.

Call the folks down town and see what is required for registering a car.

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Old Apr 14, 2010 | 10:24 AM
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Registration in PA has nothing to do with bumpers, now PA inspection is a different story......................(living in PA and facing inspection problems)
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Old Apr 14, 2010 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by corvetteload
Registration in PA has nothing to do with bumpers, now PA inspection is a different story......................(living in PA and facing inspection problems)
With classic car tag I did not need to get an inspection. You do have to submit pictures of the car when applying for a tag. This is when you may have an issue with not having a front bumper.
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Old Apr 14, 2010 | 10:38 AM
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With classic car tag I did not need to get an inspection. You do have to submit pictures of the car when applying for a tag. This is when you may have an issue with not having a front bumper.
Has anyone stopped to think all States are not the same when handling registration!?!?!??!!? In PA, all cars get inspected, all registration types, except Antique. And the only way to get the Antique tags is with pics and the car has to be stock. I am going through this now, bought a prostreet Chevelle in NJ where it WAS legal on the street, but here in PA I can't get it inspected due to a few missing things (wipers, horn, parking brake, etc). In NJ they have a Historic tag, and it seems once you get that no inspection, BUT NOT HERE IN PA!!!!!! So maybe when a question comes up about a states laws, other people shouldn't interject their states laws, only adds to the confusion for people searching out the truth..............................

SO HERES THE SCOOP- he has 4 tags to pick from, Antigue----Classic---Collector---and regular PA tag. The first three require pictures, and all except the Antique have an annual inspection. So if he avoids any of the pic tags, all he has to contend with is the PA inspection.

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I have a slighty modify 65 no bumpers on either end. I have no problem with inspections in PA.
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I PA DOT web site All vehicles must have a front and rear bumper and must be 16 to 22 inches at some point above the ground.
also my vette has large flares to cover the tires, PA inspection tells me that Im aloud only 3 inches of flares.
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bring it to bucks county pa and it will get it inspection.
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Originally Posted by TOM B1
I PA DOT web site All vehicles must have a front and rear bumper and must be 16 to 22 inches at some point above the ground.
also my vette has large flares to cover the tires, PA inspection tells me that Im aloud only 3 inches of flares.

Like I said, take pics around to various inspection garages and you will find someone to inspect it..................
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Originally Posted by corvetteload
In NJ they have a Historic tag, and it seems once you get that no inspection, BUT NOT HERE IN PA!!!!!! So maybe when a question comes up about a states laws, other people shouldn't interject their states laws, only adds to the confusion for people searching out the truth..............................

SO HERES THE SCOOP- he has 4 tags to pick from, Antigue----Classic---Collector---and regular PA tag. The first three require pictures, and all except the Antique have an annual inspection. So if he avoids any of the pic tags, all he has to contend with is the PA inspection.
In NJ, we have three choices:

1. Regular use vehicle (full annual inspection).
2. Collectible (car must be less than 25 years old, documented as collectible, mileage limit of 5000 miles per year, annual inspection is only to confirm that the mileage limit is not being violated).
3. Historic (must be 25 years old or older, no vehicle inspection, car can only be driven on the street for "exhibition or educational purposes")

So, with any car, you only have two choices, and for a 1970 car, one of them sucks.

I have lived about half my life in NJ, with the other half being PA, although it has been a few years now since I have registered any cars in PA. In PA as I recall, the "classic" registration had to be 15 years old or older, and as I recall, did have an annual inspection but it was very minor (like check mileage and a few safety things and you are done). Has that changed?
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Hey PK, whats new?!?!?! As for inspection of cLASSICS AND aNTIQUES, i GUESS IT MATTERS WHO YOU GO TO. i DON'T REGISTER ANY OF MY CARS ANYMORE UNDER aNTIQUE OR cLASSIC, i USED TO DO IT FOR INSURANCE RATE PURPOSES, BUT RIGHT NOW MY RATES ARE SO LOW it doesn't matter with regular tags. Like I said in an earlier post, I just got a Chevelle in Jersey and my insp. mech said it would need a parking brake as one of the things to get inspected, although 2 weeks ago he inspected my 75 Vette and never ever checks the PB in that (which by the way is rusted tight and hasn't worked in years, as a matter of fact the drivers side doesn't even have the pads installed, I couldn't get them in after redoing the rear bearings). So it's not who you know it's who you.................................
Plus Lancaster County recently got emissions tests, and luckily the 75 is exempt due to less than 5000 miles a year, I still pay a fee, but sticker says "exempt".
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In NJ, we have three choices:

1. Regular use vehicle (full annual inspection).
2. Collectible (car must be less than 25 years old, documented as collectible, mileage limit of 5000 miles per year, annual inspection is only to confirm that the mileage limit is not being violated).
3. Historic (must be 25 years old or older, no vehicle inspection, car can only be driven on the street for "exhibition or educational purposes")

So, with any car, you only have two choices, and for a 1970 car, one of them sucks.

I have lived about half my life in NJ, with the other half being PA, although it has been a few years now since I have registered any cars in PA. In PA as I recall, the "classic" registration had to be 15 years old or older, and as I recall, did have an annual inspection but it was very minor (like check mileage and a few safety things and you are done). Has that changed?

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When it comes to cars, there isn't much new with me! Various family stuff has kept me from working on or driving much so far in 2010. In fact, so far this year, I have riden my bike (the kind with pedals that you push on to make it go) 108 miles and have only driven my 'vette 116. I told the family last night that tonight, I'm taking my car out. I don't even know where, but it's getting out for a good long run.

Anyway, I remember you said last year that you were thinking of moving on to other cars, glad to hear you kept the '75. The Chevelle sounds cool. I assume you are planning to race it?

So Lancaster County is getting emissions testing? Wow, what will they get next, stoplights?
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Originally Posted by TOM B1
I PA DOT web site All vehicles must have a front and rear bumper and must be 16 to 22 inches at some point above the ground.
also my vette has large flares to cover the tires, PA inspection tells me that Im aloud only 3 inches of flares.
Just register it like any other car and it'll go through.

As far as inspection, make friends at your local garage.

Long ago I was pulled over and given a ticket in my 69 Mach 1 because the front bumper was missing. I had taken it off to have it rechromed.

OTOH, my brother had a 65 mustang with a fiberglass front end with no bumper and he never had any problems, because his didn't look like anything was missing. It looked like it was supposed to be like that.
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 10:43 PM
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SO IF I get a regular registration would 10 inch wide tires and fender flares pass, wouldnt it be better to get a collector tag so the mods like a BB chevy with a blower will pass inspection
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this runs on the street in pa all the times and he gets it inspected


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Originally Posted by TOM B1
My 69 vette has flared fenders, 10 inch rear tires, changed small block to BB, side pipes, modified front grill with no front bumper, my main question is in the front bumper, do I need one and how big, what is the material the bumper is to be made of, must it be visable, ECT.
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I'd go to the PennDot website if I were you, But when I registered my 79 for classic plates, I took a front, both sides and a rear photograph, filled out the registration form, sent it in and had the new 'Classic' plate in ten days. You can do it faster if you want to drive to Harrisburg. But as far as the criteria for 'Classic' it is just that the car is at least twenty years old and looks mostly stock, but it's not necessary. Once you have Classic tags, you have to have a safety inspection once a year, but no emission test.

Now if you have a car that's older than twenty five years, you can get 'Antique' tags. With them, you don't have to have any safety or emissions inspection ever, but you are responsible for the insurance and the operation of the car or truck. But most cars or trucks with 'Antique' tags are mostly show cars and rearly ever get driven more than 1000 miles a year. Pennsylvania is pretty easy as far as custom, antigue or classic cars. They in all, don't amount to any large group, so the regular state rules arn't really necesssary. As with all the classic or antigue registered cars, most are owned by collectors who take excellant care of the cars. When I registered and got insurance from American Collectors Ins. I am limited to 2500 miles a year, but to date, no one has ever visited to see it.
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Originally Posted by TOM B1
SO IF I get a regular registration would 10 inch wide tires and fender flares pass, wouldnt it be better to get a collector tag so the mods like a BB chevy with a blower will pass inspection
Either way it's going to depend on the mechanic doing the inspection. Some are pretty lenient, some are hard a$$es.
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