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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 10:37 PM
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I got a a 74 with hooker side pipes. When i start the car when its cold it starts fine. when i drive it for a run and turn it off and run into the store, go to start it. it turns over a little slower. Is the starter just getting hot from the headers or is it going bad? thanks for your in put..
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 10:53 PM
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Old Aug 4, 2010 | 05:10 PM
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my 74 used to have that hot start problem... i got a delco starter and it never happened again
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Old Aug 4, 2010 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ozzyrulesme
I got a a 74 with hooker side pipes. When i start the car when its cold it starts fine. when i drive it for a run and turn it off and run into the store, go to start it. it turns over a little slower. Is the starter just getting hot from the headers or is it going bad? thanks for your in put..
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I would say neither, until you show evidence of a strong battery and clean the ground on the trasmission crossmember....
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Old Aug 4, 2010 | 05:42 PM
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I would say neither, until you show evidence of a strong battery and clean the ground on the trasmission crossmember....
I hate to be nit picky and I do respect your posts but you have said the ground on the transmission cross member a few times. The battery ground which I assume you are talking about goes to the cross member that the differential is connected to not the transmission cross member. At leas tit does on the C3s I have worked on. Correct me if I'm wrong on this.
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Old Aug 4, 2010 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Gordonm
I hate to be nit picky and I do respect your posts but you have said the ground on the transmission cross member a few times. The battery ground which I assume you are talking about goes to the cross member that the differential is connected to not the transmission cross member. At leas tit does on the C3s I have worked on. Correct me if I'm wrong on this.
Most early C-3`s are battery ground by a 12-14 inch battery cable from the battery box behind the drivers seat attached to the trans cross-member.....it corrodes due to age and is often overlooked because of its location.......There were 15 years of C-3`s and its possible I dont know where later Vettes have there initial ground but the differential would be moving the ground further back and really because of the suspension not a real good ground.....I know my Yellow car has its frame ground at the trans mount cross-member...and it gave me a hard time when we put the Yellow car back together...I was getting a weak ground from everything {emergency brake cable and even the fuel line got hot} because the frame ground
right under the battery was bad and I knew the battery or starter was not the problem as we sell the absolute 'best' available anywhere....The car sat dormite in my warehouse for over 35 years and simply cleaniing the ground fixed it...
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Old Aug 4, 2010 | 06:38 PM
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Here is the cable you can see on a 72. It is bolted into the frame about 12 inches from centerline. This is where I have always seen them from a 71 and later that I can remember, and I can't remember much these days.

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Old Aug 4, 2010 | 07:33 PM
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I agree neg battery cable "is not" attached to the transmission crossmember.
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Old Aug 4, 2010 | 07:40 PM
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Can we say
'heat shield"?
Or wrap the exhaust pipes in the area of the starter.
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Old Aug 4, 2010 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by garage-ghost
Can we say
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Or wrap the exhaust pipes in the area of the starter.

Doesn't hurt to try it. It might work.
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Old Aug 4, 2010 | 09:08 PM
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You shouldn't be parking your Vette and running into a store in the first place. Just drive it!
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Old Aug 4, 2010 | 09:37 PM
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You should try one of those gear reduction mini starter they work real fine with headers.
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Old Aug 4, 2010 | 09:47 PM
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Go ahead and replace it. I dealt with a bad starter on my '75 till I couldn't stand it anymore. It would leave me stranded for hours, not just weak starts. Don't have the problem anymore.
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for now i bought a heat shield wrap for the starter. seems to be doing its job. when i say runiing into the store i mean the gas staion. lol can't avoid that.
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Old Aug 4, 2010 | 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Gordonm
Here is the cable you can see on a 72. It is bolted into the frame about 12 inches from centerline. This is where I have always seen them from a 71 and later that I can remember, and I can't remember much these days.

Wow looks nice under there.
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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by ozzyrulesme
Wow looks nice under there.
Looks different now with a T56 6 speed in there. I have to get some recent pictures now that it is all done.
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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 08:56 PM
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seems to me the mini starter is the way to go. spins my ZZ4 with hooker sidepipes no problem.

the mini starter is a much bigger debate, do a search...
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Originally Posted by ...Roger...
I agree neg battery cable "is not" attached to the transmission crossmember.
Ok, no problem, I`ll except that. One of my employees was working on the negative cable and solved the problem then pointed to what I thought was the cross member. I was never physically under the car...Where 'exactly is it mounted or do I have to get it back on the hoist to find it....its the Yellow 1968 coupe and I would never think 'differential .

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Old Aug 6, 2010 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Ironcross
Ok, no problem, I`ll except that. One of my employees was working on the negative cable and solved the problem then pointed to what I thought was the cross member. I was never physically under the car...Where 'exactly is it mounted or do I have to get it back on the hoist to find it....its the Yellow 1968 coupe and I would never think 'differential .
Your going to have to come out from behind that parts counter and actually work on some of these cars.
As I've said before- "parts counter guys" , "you gotta love em".
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Thats right by the brake line, oh well I was close. At least you knew what I was referring to.....better then most....

BTW, I was rarely behind the counter, more often playing with my toys....

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