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Old Jul 30, 2010 | 01:42 PM
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Well, my engine blew up in my 79 last weekend, thats a whole other story. So I took it to the local mechanic who said he could rebuild it and add a little muscle to it for about $2700. However, he wont give a warranty on it. When I asked about a crate he actually reccommended it. At first, it wasnt even a consideration. Now, after looking at the prices, I am all for it. The question is, and one that I ask all of you is, what are your experiences with crates, who would you recommend and why or why not.
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Old Jul 30, 2010 | 01:56 PM
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One thing for sure, is that for 2700 bones you're not going to get a high-perf motor. Go to a speedshop and see the price THEY want. Not a local 'mechanic.'

Crate motors are a good deal if you don't want to build your own, or have one built for you.
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Old Jul 30, 2010 | 05:38 PM
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I got a GM Performance Parts 330hp 350cid and am very happy with it. I have put about 4000 miles on it so far and it runs great.
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Old Jul 30, 2010 | 05:41 PM
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Love my ZZ4 crate.
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Old Jul 30, 2010 | 09:22 PM
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I got a GM Performance Parts 330hp 350cid and am very happy with it. I have put about 4000 miles on it so far and it runs great.
The same here
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Old Jul 30, 2010 | 09:34 PM
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I also went with the 330hp . Plenty of power for my needs
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Old Jul 30, 2010 | 10:54 PM
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I also went with the 330hp . Plenty of power for my needs
Ditto here. The GM 350 HO Deluxe in my '80 puts 293 hp to the rear wheels with a stock BW Super T-10 4-speed. If you consider typical crank-to-RW hp loss, it's probably putting more than 330 at the crank. I've had mine for 10 years without any problems.
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Old Jul 30, 2010 | 11:53 PM
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Love my ZZ4 crate.
Ditto!
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Old Jul 31, 2010 | 02:36 AM
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Here are a few pictures of my 330hp.







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...and here is a picture of my 350 HO 330 with HEI distributor, aftermarket ball milled valve covers, and a cold air intake:

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Interesting-looking cold air intake. Does it help?
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Interesting-looking cold air intake. Does it help?
Yes, I think it does. It put out 258 rwhp last year and 293 this year with just a cold air intake, filter lid, and lighter vacuum secondary spring from one year to the next.
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Thanks for the feedback, but does anyone have any recommendations for a particular company?
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GM Performance engines are brand new, not rebuilt. That was a big selling point for me.
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Old Aug 2, 2010 | 08:42 AM
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I went through some old threads and found this http://sdparts.com/details/gm-perfor...parts/12496968 . I think that this is going to be the one I go with. Anyone have any experience with this company?
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SDPC. GMPP, Jegs, Summit, Edelbrock, Year One are just a few places to get a crate engine. I still have the numbers matching engine in my car. If it goes I will put the original engine away for the next owner and buy a crate engine. At least they are professionally built and tested so at least you know it runs. You also get a dyno sheet with the engine.

Jeffery73: I have a '73 as well with working cowl induction. The cold air intake is designed to be injested from the base of the windshield where there is a natural higher pressure area. The inside of the hood is also designed to draw air in from there. Wouldn't your CAI air cleaner work better if it were reversed with the intake over the distributor?

That is a very creative and ingenious set up though.
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I think that was MN80Vette's car with the cold air setup. On our cars we would just have to mod something that acted like the stock air cleaner and sealed to the opening on the underside of the hood.
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I think that was MN80Vette's car with the cold air setup. On our cars we would just have to mod something that acted like the stock air cleaner and sealed to the opening on the underside of the hood.
Cowl induction won't work with a stock '80 hood because the hood is tight against the top of the firewall. Options are to change hoods to get some gap for cowl induction or pull unheated air from ahead of the radiator. I chose the latter mainly for cost reasons. The spoiler and valance under the front bumper draws air up there too.
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Sorry guys, my mistake. I thought I was looking at a CAI on a '73.
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ZZ4 all the way. Best thing I ever done for the car. Have the #'s matching engine on a stand in the garange for the next guy.
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