BBCorv70

I followed a thread here somewhere where a fellow had removed his VIN tag so he could paint the pillar, etc. Story went he invited a fellow from DMV over to witness reinstalling it. Thought he as doing the right thing. Instead they confiscated the tag and gave him a new state assigned VIN. That must have dropped the resale value a bit.

DMV gets a bit upset at ANY tamerping with ID numbers...

Easy Mike

It's best to play it safe. Contact your DMV, tell them what you want to do, and see what they have to say about it.

blckslvr79

You're kidding? right?????

I'll give you one guess what they'll say, wrong or right...

joewill

talk to 10 different DMV people, you'll get 10 different answers..

BBCorv70

Assume that was a joke.
If the tags are being removed, not being reinstalled, doubt anyone would care other than an over zealous DMV type.

skaping

blckslvr79

Ain't that the truth!

daanbc

Plain and simple, If you are selling or giving away the part that holds the vin tag, Remove it. The vin is for the frame, not windshield frame. If you are getting rid of the car afterwards=salvage, they should not have a problem with it. If they do, Now this is just saying, if the frame is found laying around somewhere and there's no vin to identify it, then they don't know who it belongs to. LOL.

cargo247

TITLE XXI
MOTOR VEHICLES
CHAPTER 262
ANTITHEFT LAWS, OFFENSES, PENALTIES, HABITUAL OFFENDERS, ARREST OF NONRESIDENTS AND ABANDONED VEHICLES
Offenses and Antitheft Provisions
Section 262:10
262:10 Removal of Vehicle Identification Plate. – It shall be a misdemeanor for any person or persons to remove or cause to be removed a vehicle identification number plate assigned to a vehicle by the manufacturer or the director for the purpose of concealing the identity of a vehicle, and it shall be unlawful for any person or persons to have in his possession for such purpose such a vehicle identification number plate.


TITLE XXI
MOTOR VEHICLES
CHAPTER 262
ANTITHEFT LAWS, OFFENSES, PENALTIES, HABITUAL OFFENDERS, ARREST OF NONRESIDENTS AND ABANDONED VEHICLES
Offenses and Antitheft Provisions
Section 262:7
262:7 Changed or Removed Vehicle Identification Number. – Any person who buys, receives, possesses, sells or disposes of a motor vehicle or an engine for a motor vehicle, knowing that a vehicle identification number of said motor vehicle or engine has been removed, defaced, obliterated, or changed shall be guilty of a misdemeanor; provided, however, if upon discovery by any person that a vehicle identification number has been removed, defaced, obliterated, or changed, he shall report the same to the nearest police station and shall not be charged with a violation of this section.

Source. RSA 260:7-a. 1967, 214:1. 1973, 528:132. 1981, 146:1, eff. Jan. 1, 1982.


TITLE XXI
MOTOR VEHICLES
CHAPTER 262
ANTITHEFT LAWS, OFFENSES, PENALTIES, HABITUAL OFFENDERS, ARREST OF NONRESIDENTS AND ABANDONED VEHICLES
Offenses and Antitheft Provisions
Section 262:6
262:6 Identification Marks. – No motor vehicle shall be registered unless it shall have permanently cut, impressed, or embossed on some portion thereof a factory, serial, or vehicle identification number or mark. Any person who shall knowingly have in his possession any motor vehicle from which such number or mark shall have been removed, defaced, obliterated, or changed, shall forthwith file with the department a sworn statement giving the reason therefor, a description of the vehicle, and the source of his title. If satisfied as to the facts the director may grant permission to cut, impress, or emboss permanently into the motor of such vehicle a special identification number or mark which shall thereafter be deemed sufficient for the purpose of registration of such vehicle.

Source. 1931, 79:1. RL 116:5. RSA 260:7. 1981, 146:1, eff. Jan. 1, 1982.


more info............

Source. RSA 269-A:20-a. 1969, 504:6. 1981, 146:1, eff. Jan. 1, 1982.


Google it
Todd

'75

Just do what you want. It's easier to get forgiveness than permission.

noonie

Here's the Federal Code

TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 25 > § 511

Here's the penalty phase.

mds3013

Hey Ben. You are young so ten years should be no problem. Are you going to have the car hauled off with body on frame? Is frame not salvageable? There is a vin stamped on the frame right? If you remove the window frame from the frame then you are removing the vin tag one way or the other. mike...

buckNeccid

This is related, so I'm really not trying to hijack the tag. If you remove the rivets from the back side, squeeze the expanded sides back in till you can push it thru the hole. You should be able to get the rosette rivets out without deforming them. If you can do this, then simply take the shank out of a new pop rivet and put it thru your old rosette rivet, put it in your pop rivet gun, and you can re-use it. I've done this a few times when I wanted to refinish a dash, needed to paint under the tag or needed to R&R the tag for some reason. Like everyone's said, don't do it for fraudulent purposes.

Easy Mike

Nope. Not kidding. No harm in asking first. Could save you bail money.

...Roger...

Quote:
18 USCS § 2321 (2003)

§ 2321. Trafficking in certain motor vehicles or motor vehicle parts

(a) Whoever buys, receives, possesses, or obtains control of, with intent to sell or otherwise dispose of, a motor vehicle or motor vehicle part, knowing that an identification number for such motor vehicle or part has been removed, obliterated, tampered with, or altered, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.

Many Chrysler cars have the VIN on every body part , wouldn't this mean you can't sell a fender to be used on another car ?

Solid LT1

If the tag is off a 72 Vette and the 5th digit is an "L" you could really have something valuable there

larryg3

I would say keep the trim tag and leave the vin on the car no sense risking getting into trouble!!

skaping

I am not an attorney. I do know that the laws are subject to interpretation. If they were not subject to interpretation we would not need attorneys or judges.
262.10 You are not removing the VIN tag to conceal the identity so you are not violating 262.10.

262.7 Call the local police and let them know you are removing the VIN tag for the purposes of parting the car. Odds are they will not care. You're covered.

262.6 Refers to registration of the vehicle. It does not sound like you are planning to register the vehicle so this does not apply to you.
Good luck!

Bullshark

violation of these laws depends on intent and purpose. Nothing stated wrt intent to repair.

blckslvr79

Bingo!