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Old Nov 2, 2010 | 12:34 AM
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Well guys this weekend is one I have been waiting for so long. I have finally bought each part I needed (one at a time) on college money haha, but I am here. I am replacing heads, roller rockers, cam, fan, all gaskets, seals, intake, carb, hoses, torque converter, powder coated metallic blue valve covers and air cleaner, and even door hinges

I think thats all, but I am sure I'm missing something. Anyways, while the engine is out my plan is so sand all of the engine bay down and give it a fresh new coat. I have read that krylon 1513(im guessing at the number at the moment) is a good one to go with for the engine bay area? I also want to paint the master cylinder and booster as well. Do i use that same paint? and as for the frame what should i use to sand with and should i use POR-15? Also, would it be best if I spray the engine bay or use a brush and likewise for the frame?

Thanks for any and all of your input! I have admired many of your engines and engine bays. I can only HOPE that mine will turn out half as great as all of yours. I will definitely be taking a lot of pictures this weekend of this whole process! I'm itchin to get behind the wheel again!
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Old Nov 2, 2010 | 05:32 PM
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Hi pd19,
I'll reply only in part.
Spray the engine compartment for the best results.
Krylon 1613 is a very good choice for the engine compartment, and the master cylinder casting. The booster was a shinier black.
Many people are having trouble finding 1613. The stores now sell 51613 which is a completely different paint formula. After a heads-up from someone on the Forum I was able to buy some on-line from California.
I'm sorry I can't help on the por-15 question.
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Old Nov 2, 2010 | 05:47 PM
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and as for the frame what should i use to sand with and should i use POR-15? Also, would it be best if I spray the engine bay or use a brush and likewise for the frame?
I used Eastwood Chassis Black for the frame. It had a sheen similar to what was originally on the frame. I did mine while it was still attached to the car and up on a lift. A small airbrush worked very well for this since the spray is so easy to control. The finish of the Chassis Black looks best when used over a light coat of primer that I also sprayed with an airbrush.

I haven't really used a brush on anything that I can think of.
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Old Nov 2, 2010 | 06:49 PM
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Hi Frog,
I looked at your pictures.... NICE SELECTION. Would you consider adopting me?
Your brush comment made me remember that the distributor shielding upright brackets on LT-! cars were brush painted orange because of the aluminium intake NOT being painted. If you knew that, or want me to shut up please disregard!
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Hi Frog,
I looked at your pictures.... NICE SELECTION. Would you consider adopting me?
Your brush comment made me remember that the distributor shielding upright brackets on LT-! cars were brush painted orange because of the aluminium intake NOT being painted. If you knew that, or want me to shut up please disregard!
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Hi Alan,
If I adopt you I get to add another 1971 to the collection. haha.
I seem to remember reading about those being brush painted, but that's ok since I don't have an LT-1. I don't think I have painted those brackets yet either, so that paint must hold up fairly well being off the engine heat. I guess I'll have to see if they need it.
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Old Nov 3, 2010 | 12:28 AM
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while your at it add me to the adoption list haha ill only borrow the red ls5 on the weekends i promise

as for eastwood i believe i have heard of them. dont they have a kit of some sort? is that what you got? and by air brush could you point me in a direction of what i could get? i have no clue about air brushing


thanks alan 71, oh what i would give to have that engine bay!
if you could make it down to MS around lunch thatd be great we could get to work asap
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as for eastwood i believe i have heard of them. dont they have a kit of some sort? is that what you got? and by air brush could you point me in a direction of what i could get? i have no clue about air brushing
I bought the quart can(s) of Chassis Black. Bought 2 of them but have only used about half of one. They also sell it in a spray can, but it won't be as accurate as an airbrush.

I use a Paasche VL dual action airbrush (because it is what I happened to have already), but there are other brands and types. Paasche is a decent brand. I use a 1oz bottle and set the compressor to 20-25lbs. The airbrush will give a precise spray pattern, so there is very little or no masking needed.
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Old Nov 3, 2010 | 10:26 AM
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Why not use a touch up gun instead of an air bursh? Craftsman has a nice touch up gun. It holds more paint than an air brush.

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Why not use a touch up gun instead of an air bursh? Craftsman has a nice touch up gun. It holds more paint than an air brush.

If you have that available, that would probably work just as well. I already had an airbrush, so I gave it a try.

The nice thing about the airbrush is that it can be adjusted from a narrow pin stripe pattern to a wide pattern that will cover large areas. It is also very small, so you can get into tight areas and odd angles. If you think you want to spray more than 1oz at a time, you can just put a larger bottle on the airbrush.
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Originally Posted by Frogday
If you have that available, that would probably work just as well. I already had an airbrush, so I gave it a try.

The nice thing about the airbrush is that it can be adjusted from a narrow pin stripe pattern to a wide pattern that will cover large areas. It is also very small, so you can get into tight areas and odd angles. If you think you want to spray more than 1oz at a time, you can just put a larger bottle on the airbrush.
I build models and have three airbrushes. I also have two of the Craftsman touch up guns. For the bigger stuff, the touchup gun is the way to go.

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Old Nov 3, 2010 | 02:33 PM
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I painted my master cylinder all black when I replaced it as well.

I used this;
http://www.autozone.com/autozone/acc...er=539677_0_0_
Part #BCP400
Here is some more details about it;
http://www.duplicolor.com/products/caliperPaint/

Its a brush on.

I had the paint laying around from a previous project. So I used the Black on the master cylinder and I was pleasantly surprised by the results!
I've used this on the calipers of my C3 as well with great results. Of course, a good paint job lies with the prep work. so a little sand paper and brake clean got the master cylinder nice and clean.
a small brush and very thin, multiple, coats made an ugly master cylinder all shiney and black!

On another car of mine, I've used POR-15. what a PITA to clean up after. but DAMN, it works really good. Again, lots of very thin coats. Wait about 15min between coats.

I'm not a fan of spray painting things. I prefer a paint bomb or something similar (like a real spray gun or air brush). Most automotive supply places can hook you up with it.
Now, I am NOT building my C3 to the factory specs by ANY means. So, I'm all for customizing the look to what YOU want. So, on my car, when I pull the motor, I am going to apply a sound deadner/undercarriage coating up the firewall (for heat and sound protection) then I am doing the rest of the underhood in a Matte/Satin Black of my liking.
I say, go for something custom. something you like.
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Old Nov 3, 2010 | 06:27 PM
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im not worried about factory standards either until i get my chrome bumper one of these days then i might settle down haha but so as for painting the frame what did you all use to sand it down? im thinking i am going to paint my block a glossy black so i will probably paint my bay are a flatter black. I just need to find out what that will be. And ill make the booster glossy as well. And great idea about the sound/heat dampener! i may do the same thing. do you know what it goes by?
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