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if you are looking to save money the first thing you should do is remove all the paint your self and remover the front and back bumpers and other parts that get painted body color. then you can see how much work is really going to need to be done before paint.
Strip the paint, do all the bodywork and prep work yourself, and THEN send it off to the paint shop. Most of the $$ out of the 20K price is in labor hours. Are you willing to save $75 bucks for each hour you work? I sure am
Does anyone know if the work listed seems fairly reasonable?
I don't see anything about stripping the old paint off. If they want to spray on top of the old paint, walk away. For the money we're talking here it should be taken down to 'glass.
There is a shop 150 miles south that is recommended and is just a Vette shop but I can't get them to return a phone call.
Since I have two different folks recommending stripping the car, what type of work would that require? I can sand, etc... but if I do it wrong I figure I could damage the car.
Is this a difficult process or just time consuming and learnable?
One other option is sandblasting,they can remove the layer of paint you see on your car now,down to the org color or blast it down to the gel coat if you want. Paint stippers do a good job but their very toxic and you gotta make sure your clean it up well or it will come back to haunt you after the car is painted. Good luck in what ever you do.
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Originally Posted by pbbergs
I have a 79' blue coupe. It was painted by a previous owner and it is a fair paint job but it could look much better. The interior, engine and frame are in mint condition and I want to match the paint job.
I contacted a regional car restoration shop (They do work around the world) for a repaint and they told me to expect to spend $20,000.00+. Two hundred hours ($75/hr) plus $4,000.00 or more in supplies. I was quite shocked and unclear as to why the number of hours needed and supply costs. I don't see any gel coat issues and they did quote sight unseen but he said this was a pretty normal amount. If I had an early 60's Vette' it wouldn't be such a big amount relative to the return value and I don't expect to sell my car, but after the paint job my car won't ever come close to any significant increase. It was recently appraised at $19,000.00.
So can anyone give me any insight? I am waiting on other bids as well.
Thx
Paul
Where are you located ? $8,000 - $10,000 in NY gets you the right job & about average price...........without too much body work needed !!
I wouldnt pay $20,000 to paint a FERRARI !!!! nor do I know many 79's appraised at $19,000 either !!!
Where are you located ? $8,000 - $10,000 in NY gets you the right job & about average price...........without too much body work needed !!
I wouldnt pay $20,000 to paint a FERRARI !!!! nor do I know many 79's appraised at $19,000 either !!!
If I had a scanner I would send you the quote for the Vette. I wouldn't be able to sell it for 19Kbut I would expect mid-teens. It is in perfect shape with the exception of the paint.
Maybe he needs to go to his local Chevy Dealership, I ran by mine yesterday and he said if i'd take everything off of it, Locks / door handles stuff like that he'd sand it all down and fix the cracks in the finders and paint everything for $3600. Plus they've got top of the line booth and it will look like it rolled out of the show room, Oh also he's going to polish out the aluminum trim on the bottom of the car to make it look new again also. And that's painted around the doors and Ttops
Maybe he needs to go to his local Chevy Dealership, I ran by mine yesterday and he said if i'd take everything off of it, Locks / door handles stuff like that he'd sand it all down and fix the cracks in the finders and paint everything for $3600. Plus they've got top of the line booth and it will look like it rolled out of the show room, Oh also he's going to polish out the aluminum trim on the bottom of the car to make it look new again also. And that's painted around the doors and Ttops
You have a good memory! Yep, that car was so perfect I hesitated to drive it. So I sold it. Strangely I get the same feelings about my 1974. BTW, a GM dealer paint job for it (1974) would be about $5000.00.
In 1966, the dealer paint job on the 61 fuelie was $100..that included the inside of the truck AND changing from T. black to Ermine white. It didnt have a hard top.
I had forgotten I had a huge Corvette enthusiast at my work. He is in another building but he has 7 glass cars 3 Corvettes and 4 from another but the name escapes me. Anyways I am going to discuss with him on Monday. This guy does everything himself (He has incredible skills, he does Blacksmith work) he left me a brief phone message but thought I should be able to not have to do a complete strip down since the car is in such good shape.
I also started doing research on Soda Blasting, which seems like it would save a lot of labor time if I did want to go and had the paint removed.
I think I am making steps forward by possibly doing some of this prep work myself.
How difficult is it to remove the trim and door hardware?
he left me a brief phone message but thought I should be able to not have to do a complete strip down since the car is in such good shape.
BINGO!!! The voice of reason. If you were painting a rare, more valuable car, then I would say absolutely strip off the old paint. You have to look at this logically. Personally, I don't think I would spend more than 25% of the value of the car on refinishing costs. I am not ******* your 79, because that is exactly what I have. The paint on mine (except front & rear bumpers) is original and I am fighting to keep it that way. That is why I was recommending trying a detailer first.
Originally Posted by pbbergs
I think I am making steps forward by possibly doing some of this prep work myself. How difficult is it to remove the trim and door hardware?
That depends on how handy you are working on your own car. If you take your car to a mechanic to get most things done, you might be able to take things off easy enough, but getting everything put back might be a challenge. Remember, nothing is easy on these cars. You might even have trouble getting the emblems off without breaking them and the bumpers are labor intensive. Flat rate labor for a tech to overhaul a rear bumper is 8.0 hours. That's ridiculous time for a bumper. Also remember that some of the people here that say this is easy are very talented restorers. They have been doing this stuff for years and it is easy for them, but maybe not so easy for you.
Sounds like you have a good solid source of information right there where you work, so hopefully he will give you a better idea of what is necessary and what is overkill for your particular car.
I would not use any abrasive on fiberglass - its already thin enough
When I saw the fenders off my car I was suprised how weak they were. Once bonded and gel coated its much stronger as a unit.
About $8500 is the average paint price at the shop that did my car and thats as long as you don't need a ton of bodywork
In hindsight I would have stripped the car myself and trailered it to the shop. A lot of corners can be cut on re-assembly. I am finding it out on my car. No one is going to give your car the attention to detail that you would.
Originally Posted by itsabigblock
One other option is sandblasting,they can remove the layer of paint you see on your car now,down to the org color or blast it down to the gel coat if you want. Paint stippers do a good job but their very toxic and you gotta make sure your clean it up well or it will come back to haunt you after the car is painted. Good luck in what ever you do.