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I figure at least 243 of the original 231 have been found.
It`s more like 400 of the original 200+ have been found and restored I remember hearing how when they had a 67 L-88 reunion at Bloomington 50 of the original 20 cars tried to enter.
Sadly the jokes about more now than then are only funny to a point. The restorstion hobby has made making "tribute" or "clones" that can pass for the real thing easy. It doesn't take too much need for greed to sell what should be a $40k car for $250k.
Sadly the jokes about more now than then are only funny to a point. The restorstion hobby has made making "tribute" or "clones" that can pass for the real thing easy. It doesn't take too much need for greed to sell what should be a $40k car for $250k.
I don't follow how the restoration hobby has made anything easier or harder wrt creating clones or tributes.
So far as fakes selling for original prices I'd say that's going to be true for any collectible be it a painting or a car. The high prices being paid for some originals will encourage counterfeiters. It's the responsibility of the buyer to be skeptical, have the car checked out very carefully when paying the huge sums some do for high performance, rare, originals. No guarantee, much like any other collectible.
I have no problems with the clones or tributes so long as they are presented as such.
I don't follow how the restoration hobby has made anything easier or harder wrt creating clones or tributes.
Let's see, block restamping (with factory dies and fixtures), build sheets, protecto plates and dealer invoices are all a phone call and credit card away. Turn small block base cars into big blocks, and big blocks are big bucks. And it's not just L88's. Any "desirable" combo has more now than GM ever built (look at '67 427/435 cars). Sadly, it's also not unique to Corvettes. It's a lot harder to forge fine art.
Let's see, block restamping (with factory dies and fixtures), build sheets, protecto plates and dealer invoices are all a phone call and credit card away. Turn small block base cars into big blocks, and big blocks are big bucks. And it's not just L88's. Any "desirable" combo has more now than GM ever built (look at '67 427/435 cars). Sadly, it's also not unique to Corvettes. It's a lot harder to forge fine art.
If "desirable" is the kind of car someone is wanting to buy, then they better know what they're looking for. If not, they can only blame themself.
Hey, it's a free country. If some rich dude wants to pay big bucks (or an apparent bargain price) for a supposed L88 that suddenly and mysteriously appears in a completely restored condition (unrestored cars are hard to fake) after being hidden out of sight for 43 years...more power to him. A fool and his money are soon parted.
That is where provenance comes into play. I would venture to say that virtually all of the 216 real cars that still exist have been verified and their ownership trails followed for a very long time. If I had that kind of money, that is the only kind of L88 that I would spend it on.
Know a guy that bought '68 L-88 in early 70's quit driving it when OPEC gas prices kicked in (second owner.) Original paint, motor... sits in garage with boxes and stuff on top and all around. And he and his son are mechanics, says that's his retirement project!
Let's see, block restamping (with factory dies and fixtures), build sheets, protecto plates and dealer invoices are all a phone call and credit card away. Turn small block base cars into big blocks, and big blocks are big bucks. And it's not just L88's. Any "desirable" combo has more now than GM ever built (look at '67 427/435 cars). Sadly, it's also not unique to Corvettes. It's a lot harder to forge fine art.
I can't see the restoration hobby being to blame for restamps or phoney documentation. They strike me as likely intended to defraud a buyer. If I were building a clone to drive, I would have no interest in fake documents or serial numbers. A clone isn't a restoration anyway.
I'll go on to say clones or tributes have their place, making these cars affordable to buyers without deep pockets, who want to drive them, not collect and store away.
Like any other collectible, guns, paintings, cars, etc, if a buyer is paying a hefty premium for the item they had better pay an expert to look it over, be as sure as possible it's not a fake. Otherwise they take their chances and possibly get burned. If there's big money in fakes, people will produce them.
L88 just in the USA ?
i have pictures of a 69 L88 imported in Italy in 1969 by the father of present owner. the car misses the build sheet but there are no fake L88 makers in Italy...
L88 just in the USA ?
i have pictures of a 69 L88 imported in Italy in 1969 by the father of present owner. the car misses the build sheet but there are no fake L88 makers in Italy...
I know of a 68 L88 too in Holland
Aldo, I'm sure that your reply is sincere, however I was making a political joke.
The "jackass" who currently occupies our White House once made the mistake of saying that there are 57 states in America, when EVERYBODY knows it's actually 50.....
...That is where provenance comes into play. I would venture to say that virtually all of the 216 real cars that still exist have been verified and their ownership trails followed for a very long time...
Aldo, I'm sure that your reply is sincere, however I was making a political joke.
The "jackass" who currently occupies our White House once made the mistake of saying that there are 57 states in America, when EVERYBODY knows it's actually 50.....
yes , i realized that 57 was not the correct number... btw here are pics of the italian L88