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Old Apr 15, 2011 | 09:31 PM
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Just wondering if that product will rot your wheels like the other stuff they offer rots tires?!?!?!?!? A better product is made by Turtle Wax, hasn't cracked any tires like Armor All did to a set I had in 81 in 3 months, also cracked the vinyl top on my car!!!!! Use Turtle Wax T-96R F21 Protectant.
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Old Apr 16, 2011 | 08:22 PM
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Armor-All and other similar 'protectants' are petroleum-based. So are tires. That stuff will eventually damage the tires and will certainly turn the whitewalls or white letters brown after some time.

A polymer protectant (Nu-Vinyl, Meguaiar's for vinyl/rubber, etc.) is not made from petroleum and will not damage the tires. It will also protect them from absorbing dust/dirt like most [synthetic] rubber will do. They will look better and will clean-up much more easily.
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Old Apr 16, 2011 | 08:34 PM
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Armor-All and other similar 'protectants' are petroleum-based. So are tires. That stuff will eventually damage the tires and will certainly turn the whitewalls or white letters brown after some time.

A polymer protectant (Nu-Vinyl, Meguaiar's for vinyl/rubber, etc.) is not made from petroleum and will not damage the tires. It will also protect them from absorbing dust/dirt like most [synthetic] rubber will do. They will look better and will clean-up much more easily.

Uh, I don't think so. Armor-All (and other similar "protectants") are silicone based - not petroleum based.
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Originally Posted by corvetteload
Just wondering if that product will rot your wheels like the other stuff they offer rots tires?!?!?!?!? A better product is made by Turtle Wax, hasn't cracked any tires like Armor All did to a set I had in 81 in 3 months, also cracked the vinyl top on my car!!!!! Use Turtle Wax T-96R F21 Protectant.
you are asking about something from 30 years ago?
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Old Apr 16, 2011 | 09:07 PM
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armor-all supposedly changed from the oil based to a water - silicone base about 10 years ago. Either way I think there are a lot of better options out there.
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I think someone once said WD-40 was a great option (not kidding).

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Old Apr 17, 2011 | 03:14 PM
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No f-ing matter how many years ago it was, that wet slick look isn't meant for hi-perf or classic cars. The Turtle Wax products gives a nice satin clean look, not a finish you can slick your hair back with!!!! That experience soured me towards their products, and I only use Eagle One waxes and F21 for rubber or vinyl
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Meguiar's M4001 Pro Vinyl and Rubber Cleaner/Conditioner is my choice
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Old Apr 17, 2011 | 03:36 PM
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i use turtle wax f21. it looks great on tires and doesnt give that greasy look. dont know how it affects tire though.
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i use turtle wax f21. it looks great on tires and doesnt give that greasy look. dont know how it affects tire though.
It doesn't, ask the tires on my 75 that I got in 92 and sold in 2010 and they still looked new, also my 96 Impala SS I bough new and sold in Dec 09, like new still also. It supplies the rubber with what it needs to stay supple and not rob them of their natural juices that would cause cracking. F21 was called Clearguard many years ago and the rep from TW told me thet only changed the name, so F21 is the BOMB, and AA is this:
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Old Apr 18, 2011 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by corvetteload
No f-ing matter how many years ago it was, that wet slick look isn't meant for hi-perf or classic cars. The Turtle Wax products gives a nice satin clean look, not a finish you can slick your hair back with!!!! That experience soured me towards their products, and I only use Eagle One waxes and F21 for rubber or vinyl
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With or without "protectant", tires that have been in service longer than 5-6 years should be replaced. It's why DOT makes the tire manufacturers display the "born-on" date on each tire produced since about the turn of the century.

I doubt any of the usual name brand tire-shine products could accelerate dry rotting during this 5-6 year period, if at all. Sun (UV), sitting, temperature cycles, humidity cycles, father time, etc, will cause dry rotting; not the protectants.

If there were a problem with Armor-All's tire products (which btw are a silicone based compound), who's been doing this for 40 years, it would have come up by now.

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http://www.armorall.com/faq/wheel.php#answer5
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If you haven't tried Nu-Vinyl on interior vinyl/plastic surfaces (gauge dials, too!) and on your tires & hoses, you really should do so. It is a polymer material and I believe it is very similar to Meguiar's for plastic/rubber (shown above). But, I would never change from Nu-Vinyl, just because of the terrific results from all of its uses over many years. You can order it through ACE or Tru-Value hardware stores or over the internet.
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Old Apr 18, 2011 | 07:59 PM
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My double "agree" with respect to this topic was not so much a condemnation of Armorall products as it was to the shiny result that some products give our tires or other parts of our babies. I do not like that shiny appearance on tires. Shiny was never the appearance of original new tires and it looks crappy on tires that are in use. It makes them look like used cars on a cheapo car lot.
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Lemon Pledge.

Old time show car tire cleanup trick, works great, doesn't look slick and won't hurt the tires, and you probably have it around the house.

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Lemon Pledge.

Old time show car tire cleanup trick, works great, doesn't look slick and won't hurt the tires, and you probably have it around the house.

Doug
I use Pledge on the black plastic grilles on my 69, and works on most black plastic that gets that white appearance from wax
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If you really want that flat black look like our c3's originally had, put some lacquer thinner on a rag and wipe off your tires. You'll be amazed at the look you get. Makes them look like new. Now, I'm sure an expert chemist will chime in with all the damage it will do and all the reasons not to use it, but I've been using this method for the past 44 years, starting on my '61 Catalina, and I've never had any tire problems or tire damage.
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