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Old May 26, 2011 | 05:03 PM
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Drove a 2004 Mach I Mustang GT a couple days ago. I had it in my head that I would consider trading out the old vette for something faster. What a disappointment. My 76 4 speed vette is just as fast!
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Old May 26, 2011 | 05:05 PM
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try a hotter version, like the 427 horse one. that being said..heck, their dime a dozen out there, seems like every 10th car is one.
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Old May 26, 2011 | 05:43 PM
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Old May 26, 2011 | 05:47 PM
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Yeah they aren't that spectacular
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Old May 26, 2011 | 05:48 PM
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...but they sure look NICE I gotta admit
Ford did a great job on the latest Mustang IMO.
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Old May 26, 2011 | 06:02 PM
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A '76 Corvette would do the 1/4 mile in 15.4, and an '04 Mach 1 could run a 13.2. Sounds like you've done enough mods that you're going to have to step up to a Z06 in order to go faster.
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Old May 26, 2011 | 11:43 PM
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Sorry there is no such thing as a Mach 1, GT. There is either it's a 16 valve V-8 GT or a 32 valve Mach 1. The diff is almost 100HP.
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Old May 27, 2011 | 09:36 AM
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Trade a Vette for a Mustang??? Why?
If it's just for something faster, mod the Vette engine or drop in a performance crate engine in it.

The C-3 is WAY cooler than a newer model Mustang any day.

Just my 2c.

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Old May 27, 2011 | 09:52 AM
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I had one, it was a sad excuse for a sports car. I could dump the clutch in second and it would barely chirp the tires. It was fairly indestructable though with such a weak engine.
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Old May 27, 2011 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by GD70
Trade a Vette for a Mustang??? Why?
If it's just for something faster, mod the Vette engine or drop in a performance crate engine in it.

The C-3 is WAY cooler than a newer model Mustang any day.

Just my 2c.

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Pick up a six speed C5 Corvette and you'll have perma-grin.
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Originally Posted by GD70
Trade a Vette for a Mustang??? Why?
If it's just for something faster, mod the Vette engine or drop in a performance crate engine in it.

The C-3 is WAY cooler than a newer model Mustang any day.

Just my 2c.

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I don't know.. I'd take a 03 or 04 Cobra. Supper charging is always cool.
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Old May 27, 2011 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by thatcorvetteguy
Sorry there is no such thing as a Mach 1, GT. There is either it's a 16 valve V-8 GT or a 32 valve Mach 1. The diff is almost 100HP.
Yeah, I know, but I added "GT" for folks that may not realize Ford made a Mach I model that was basically a GT with upgrades and not just a cosmetic package. For example, Chevy made Camaro SS's that actually were V-6 cars. Anyway, who really cares about being semantically correct all the time? Let your hair down buddy.

And, yes, my 76 has been modded. However, I still can't believe how poorly the Mach I performed. Maybe there was something wrong with the car.
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Originally Posted by fugawi
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I resemble that remark!
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Old May 28, 2011 | 07:16 AM
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Nothing at all wrong with Mustang's, as think they're pretty cool myself. Gotta keep an eye on technology, as my daily 08' Pontiac G6 GXP run's to 60 in 6 second's flat. Have other faster car's too, but not many out there have the C3 look.
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Old May 28, 2011 | 09:11 AM
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Being an LT5/ZR-1 driver, (and occasionally a C3 driver when my wife lets me drive hers) I can appreciate what the Dearborn ppl have done with the 32v DOHC technology. It really grinds on me that GM went back to pushrods and has left others to take the lead to further develop the DOHC, 32v motors - now up to 440 hp from a stock 5.0L (GM gets close at 430 hp, but resorting to more cid w/ a relatively "peaky", 6.2L LS3 pushrod to do it. For example, the 368 ci LT5 makes 500+ to the rear wheels for the same LS3 displacement, and the curve is waaaay flatter, i.e., more usable power under the curve!...I'm just sayin', ya won't fine me knocking FMCO. At least they're trying!)

But, that aside, a Mustang, good looking as (the later ones) are, is a heavy, straight-axle, dime-a-dozen hotrod that is seriously challenged off the dragstrip for individuality or handling ability, compared to a C3. If more go is needed, I'd be dropping a crate motor in there; an LSx perhaps before trading the C3. JMO...YMMV.

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Old May 28, 2011 | 02:46 PM
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GM has far from abandoned twin cam development, and has some of the best V6 and I4 design's out there. The mentioned LS3 example is far from a sloutch. Forget that it has more displacement than some other's, as gotta look at the real number's. Physically compact, light weight, and better fuel effeciency than most of the other's. Plus, can't argue with 6.2 litre's of low end torque. Don't get me wrong, as think Ford's new 5.0 is one heck of a motor, but GM definitely know's what they're doing with the LS design.
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Old May 28, 2011 | 03:17 PM
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I'm quite tempted by the '12 Boss 302. Ford got it right on that one!

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Old May 28, 2011 | 09:39 PM
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nice car..440hp, only problem is its $41k U.S and $60k Canadian...too much $$$ for what it is.
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Old May 28, 2011 | 09:52 PM
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The new GT pushing 412hp is nice but I wouldnt trade it for my C5 or my C3.
Still, I am not opposed to a Mustang in the garage but only the old ones.
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