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Old Jul 22, 2011 | 09:43 AM
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I have 1976 corvette L82 four speed. It was stored in my garage and was caught in a flood. Up to the gauges in water. I got the water out of the motor tranny and rear end. Started it and moved around. Was going to start on the interior. That's when the tranny jammed in gear. Then the engine at idle in the driveway just died. Wouldn't start again. Now windows don't work. The gauges don't register. Headlights don't go up. Am I in for more trouble than the car is worth. Other people say get rid of it. She only had 60,000 miles on her and ran like a top. The front and rear bumpers were showing signs of a bit of deterioration. Everything else was good. What would your advice be? I'd like to keep but don't know all that would be involved to fix, or how much. Most of my coin went into buy her.
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Old Jul 22, 2011 | 10:42 AM
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It all depends on how much silt the flood left behind and if it was fresh or salt water. Usually you can drain the fluids and if you run the car at operating temps enough then the damage is minimal. Then change the fluids again. The worst thing you can do is to let it sit a long time before you start. Besides obvious cleanup, almost all of the electrical, gauges, etc will have to be replaced. If you don't have the time at least spray everything with a light oil or even kerosene for now.
Did a bunch of them years ago and made money on every one, so it's not all that bad.
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Old Jul 22, 2011 | 11:23 AM
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How much will your insurance company give you for it? It surely would be totaled.
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Old Jul 22, 2011 | 11:28 AM
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Ill give you a grand for it
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Old Jul 22, 2011 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Puttsee
....... Am I in for more trouble than the car is worth. ......
Probably, if you are asking.
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Old Jul 22, 2011 | 04:31 PM
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There is a reason that most cars that are subject to a flood are considered a total loss by insurance companies. It is not because they are nice guys. There is also a reason why flood cars must be sold with a salvage title and the flooding disclosed in virtually every state.

Flood cars will require a great deal of work to get them into an operable state but unless you replace all fluids, all interior pieces, and all wiring and electrical components you will experience problems for years.

The interior is subject to mold from being wet and the electrical components will corrode. Most of the other components can be cleaned up to look good and you might get lucky and not have problems. There are a few Katrina cars out there that were cleaned up and sold in states where disclosure is not required and their new owners are left to tend to the problems.

Only you can determine if it is worth it to clean up that car properly. From a monetary value standpoint it is not worth it but you may feel otherwise. My vote is take the insurance money and run.
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Old Jul 22, 2011 | 04:43 PM
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I am hoping that you drained all the oil out of the engine, transmission and differential and replaced with new fluid. If the car was in water higher than the dipsticks, there was filthy water in everything. If it didn't get up to the carb and/or top of the gas tank, the tank should be OK. Did it all get completely dried out (water stays inside electrical harnesses, etc. for a long time) before you put the battery to it?
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Old Jul 22, 2011 | 05:17 PM
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If it was salt or brackish water.I would unload it.It will eat the frame from the inside out.Fresh water depends on how much time you have on your hands.
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From experience, it's not worth the hassle. The car will never be the same.
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Old Jul 22, 2011 | 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Red70vette
There is a reason that most cars that are subject to a flood are considered a total loss by insurance companies. It is not because they are nice guys. There is also a reason why flood cars must be sold with a salvage title and the flooding disclosed in virtually every state.

Flood cars will require a great deal of work to get them into an operable state but unless you replace all fluids, all interior pieces, and all wiring and electrical components you will experience problems for years.

The interior is subject to mold from being wet and the electrical components will corrode. Most of the other components can be cleaned up to look good and you might get lucky and not have problems. There are a few Katrina cars out there that were cleaned up and sold in states where disclosure is not required and their new owners are left to tend to the problems.

Only you can determine if it is worth it to clean up that car properly. From a monetary value standpoint it is not worth it but you may feel otherwise. My vote is take the insurance money and run.
I Agree! I used to live in New Orleans (pre-Katrina) and had some experience with flooded cars. Recovering from a flood is all relative to how bad the car was flooded ( water up to what?), what kind of water flooded it, how long it was flooded, and how long has it taken you to start repairing the flood damage.

Here are the BASIC things you will have to complete on your car:
  • Replace All Fluids with New (oil, transmission, differential, radiator, windshield washer, brake fluid, EVERYTHING)
  • Replace wiring harness
  • take apart all guages and clean (guages that cannot be taken apart will need to be replaced)
  • Unplug all connectors, clean, lubricate with di-electric grease, and reconnect
  • Remove all bulbs from sockets, clean every socket, lube with di-electric grease, replace with new bulbs
  • Strip the interior down to the metal
  • Tear seats down to the frames.
  • Place seat cushions, seat covers, door panels, and all carpet in the sun to dry
  • Clean any mold or mildew with a solution of detergent and a couple of tablespoons of bleach (go easy on the bleach, it may ruin whatever you save)

Once you get everything back together and the car running again. You can attempt to start using your car again. Be prepared to totally rebuild your starter and distributor, repack anything and everything with a bearing in it, and constantly watch your frame for rust.

Last note: If you were flooded by Salt water (even slightly salty) forget about all of the above. Just say goodbye and be happy you had some fun with it prior to the flood.

Good luck!

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A long but interesting read here on a flood C6.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...-purchase.html

Assuming you have insurance, I would take the write-off funds. The company can take it off your hands and dispose of it as they see fit.
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Old Jul 22, 2011 | 09:00 PM
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Thanks for your replies. I got the water out of the motor tranny and rearend the day after the flood. Filledit up with fresh. Started and moved around. The water was fresh water. No insurance act of God. Also lost the house. No insurance act of God. Just finished the house. Now figured I would start on the car. If I replace any electricle motors clean all connections what else will have to be done. I have time just no money
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Old Jul 22, 2011 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Puttsee
Thanks for your replies. I got the water out of the motor tranny and rearend the day after the flood. Filledit up with fresh. Started and moved around. The water was fresh water. No insurance act of God. Also lost the house. No insurance act of God. Just finished the house. Now figured I would start on the car. If I replace any electricle motors clean all connections what else will have to be done. I have time just no money
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I apologize for my earlier post. I did not realize that both the house and car were uninsured....That is truly a personal tragedy.
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Originally Posted by chstitans42
Ill give you a grand for it
Ben, you're gonna need a warehouse before long!!!
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Old Jul 22, 2011 | 09:54 PM
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No apologies necassary. They were insured just that insurance says it was perfect storm and an act of God. So no insurance. Government kicked in with some help but not for anything not related to the house. Life goes on now just got to decide what to do with the car,
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Old Jul 22, 2011 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Puttsee
No apologies necassary. They were insured just that insurance says it was perfect storm and an act of God. So no insurance. Government kicked in with some help but not for anything not related to the house. Life goes on now just got to decide what to do with the car,
Thanks Putts.
Sorry to hear, sounds like a big mess all around.
So what's your location?
Who were the cheezy insurance companies?
Exactly how high was the water level, on engine and/or dash?
How long has it been since flooded?
Was there silt or was water pretty clean?
Was battery connected when flooded?
Got any pics?
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"Act of God".... hmmm, sounds like a legal 'out' to me. Tell them to prove that God exists before they can claim that one. Lots of us 'believe', but the insurance clowns are using this to not pay you. That's a legal issue; so make them prove God exists in a court of law in order to claim an 'Act of God'. By the way, what isn't an act of God??? Just a bunch of legal weasels trying to skip out on paying off on their insurance coverage.
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Old Jul 23, 2011 | 01:05 AM
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I live in Duncan BC. Ca. The flood was over a year ago. The water was fresh water. Fairly clean. As clean as flood water can be I guess. The water was up to the bottom of the gauges. Came up the exhaust pipes and filled the engine. I got the water out of the engine, tranny and rear end. It started and ran. I would start it and move it around up until 6 months ago when it died and wouldn't even click even though all the other things were getting power and working. Now it seems one by one electricle things have stopped working.
I believe there is a class action suit being brought forward. There are 410 homes affected.
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Old Jul 23, 2011 | 07:14 AM
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I would start it and move it around up until 6 months ago when it died and wouldn't even click even though all the other things were getting power and working. Now it seems one by one electricle things have stopped working.
Unfortunately that IS the major concern with flood damaged cars. The water gets into everything. Which means you end up taking the whole car apart to clean the moisture which by now has turned into corrosion. That's why most insurance companies will total a car once the water has gotten as high as the fuse box area even if the engine and trans do not have evidence of water intrusion. As others have already said you can probably save the car but you will have to spend many hours going through just about everything part by part.

I hope you and the other 409 home owners get satisfaction from that class action suit. You deserve it.
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