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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 06:57 AM
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Project number one for the car is the exhaust.

The car sounds nice already with it's aftermarket tips (don't know what they are but they're flat) but I want a bit more volume.

In the future, like 6 months to a year, I'm planning on going down the blown crate motor route (always wanted a daily with a stack coming through the hood), so something that will be compatable with that kind of setup would be good, but not essential just now. I'm aware that I'm going to need larger diameter pipes with a blown setup to an N/A setup, but figure I could get away with the larger diameter for awhile.

I've done some searching and come up with these:

I love this one; it's the sort of sound I'm after to begin with:

'Most relaxing sound for men'

The 'Harley' sound:

Blown C3

This is what I DON'T want; too quiet (kinda sounds similar already):
C3 Magnaflow


The legal limit where I live is 96db, so I'd like something about there give or take a few db. I'll be removing the catalytic converter. In the first one the description says it's a 'Cherry Bomb Glasspack;' from looking at their website they don't seem to offer a full exhaust system for the C3. So is that just a muffler and removed catalytic on the standard exhaust?

I'm aware a stock motor won't rev/sound like the second one, but I love the sputtering idle sound and when it is continued throughout the rev-range.

Still undecided on side-pipes or not, but I will probably go that way with heat-shields. Been reading another thread on Dean's ones and they look good. Do they really stop you getting burnt despite being metal?
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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 07:15 AM
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How about "under the car" chambered exaust? Sounds just like side pipes.

http://youtu.be/HL2LHFwh8Gc
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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 07:36 AM
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You can't tell anything from a sound clip. A lot depends on what cam you have what compression you have and the headers and tube size and muffler you go with. So those sound clips mean nothing. Most side exhaust systems are garbage as far as flow goes when you put mufflers in them so be careful when selecting them. As for your blown setup, what are you going for. Lots of HP or just a DD with a blower through the hood. I have seen blower setups that produce crap for HP or properly setup motors that will really make some HP. Rememeber HP is not cheap so a good setup will cost. Plenty of good NA motors around that will leave blower setups in the dust. If you are just bolting on a blower for the look than the exhaust will not really matter.
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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 09:22 AM
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You can't tell anything from a sound clip. A lot depends on what cam you have what compression you have and the headers and tube size and muffler you go with. So those sound clips mean nothing. Most side exhaust systems are garbage as far as flow goes when you put mufflers in them so be careful when selecting them. As for your blown setup, what are you going for. Lots of HP or just a DD with a blower through the hood. I have seen blower setups that produce crap for HP or properly setup motors that will really make some HP. Rememeber HP is not cheap so a good setup will cost. Plenty of good NA motors around that will leave blower setups in the dust. If you are just bolting on a blower for the look than the exhaust will not really matter.
In the ricer scene which I am in the process of selling out of, some of the gurus can tell a lot about what a car is running just from the exhaust note. I would've thought it'd be similar for 350s, but I guess there're so many different schools of thought to modding them.

I'm well aware of the way the cams change the exhaust note and will be going for a lumpier setup in the future to give me the note I want. It'll probably wait until the new motor though. I imagine a lumpy cam setting may disagree slightly with a blower right? Oh well...

As for the power - I'm not planning on entering any HP comps or drags or anything. I just want the car to be fun on the street. Like a 4 wheeled Harley with some grunt. I'm not chasing 1000hp or anything. I primarily want the blower for the look of it; it'd be nice if it added a little extra low end push too. I tend not to rev my cars out often, not away from the lights either, I just want it to perform in the 'lazy' spot in the rev range if that makes sense - so I'm sitting at the limit and I want to feel some torque thrust as soon as I squeeze the throttle without changing down.



Nice '72 Vette! Very clean. Not quite what I'm after though. Too smooth, I'm after a bit of grit and imperfection

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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Edelrock
In the ricer scene which I am in the process of selling out of, some of the gurus can tell a lot about what a car is running just from the exhaust note.

I'm not chasing 1000hp or anything. I primarily want the blower for the look of it;


I guess once a ricer, always a ricer. We have many in the Corvette "scene", we call them Bubba. Welcome aboard Bubba.

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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 10:59 PM
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I guess once a ricer, always a ricer. We have many in the Corvette "scene", we call them Bubba. Welcome aboard Bubba.
Hehe, I am primarily going for look 'cause I don't have the cash or time for a mega HP build :P

The way I see it, how are ricers and muscle cars any different? Just cheap, mass produced cars with over built engines which are cheap because there are so many of them. They are modded on the same principle too: how do we get more fuel into the cylinders?

The muscle enthusiast who seperates himself from the ricer crowd is the one who keeps the car mostly original (including the wheels) and does it up for show and shine. Dad's got plenty of cars like that for me to enjoy when I want

I went to a hotrod show a few months ago and nearly puked. I am so sick of mid-60s fastbacks and first gen Camaros slammed on ridiculous 20" wheels with ridiculous negative offset. They're absolutely no different to most of the ricers at Autosalon events.

I'm not into that side of ricers, no clear tail lights or low skirts for the sake of being low on my car. Just a 12sec car that'll make 30mpg and feels like driving a racing car

But, I'm selling it 'cause I don't use the loud peddal enough. The Corvette for me is all about the experience. Part of that is looking at the wheel arches, and the hood cowl as you're driving. I just want a more interesting hood!

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I wouldn't be putting a blower on just for the look of it but you should do with your car whatever makes you happy and don't let other people's opinions on here discourage you from doing whatever you want. Not sure why, but some people on this site get a kick out of making personal attacks. Can't really help you Edelrock with your question but I am sure some other helpful members like DGR and Gordon will post.
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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 11:21 PM
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Not sure why, but some people on this site get a kick out of making personal attacks.
69VetteFla... You have made more personal attacks that anyone else on this Forum. How ironically funny.
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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 11:26 PM
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69VetteFla... You have made more personal attacks that anyone else on this Forum. How ironically funny.
Haven't attacked anyone here on this forum - I assume you are referring to my post about your friend Corvette Mike. As you very well know I wasn't attacking, just making it known about my very bad experience with a dealer in order to help others (which I know that I did). Don't want to go back and forth with you so if it makes you happy attack me all you want.
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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 11:35 PM
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You are just showing your true colors. Never met Mike. Don't know the guy. You make stuff up and attack anyone who does not agree with you.

Many Forum members were just frustrated with your endless beating of a dead horse. Make your point and move on.
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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 12:00 AM
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Ibtl!!!:d
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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 07:49 PM
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Hahaha, have you ever used any other forum? Welcome to the internet thingy As most of you are in the wrong country to track me down and challenge me to pistols at dawn, I don't really care what you think (I'd win anyway btw). But I do care what you know (generally why people post threads with question marks in the OP).

Anyway, has anyone ever tried putting some of those electronic, volume adjustable butterfly valved mufflers in side exhausts? Sounds like a perfect solution. I think I'm going to be going with side pipes. I've had a listen to the factory ones on youtube, and certainly not loud by my standards. So I'm dicing between the Hooker 4"s with glasspack inserts with a chance of too much volume or factories with a chance of not enough. I'll give it a think while you carry on the personal attacks!
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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Edelrock
I think I'm going to be going with side pipes. I've had a listen to the factory ones on youtube, and certainly not loud by my standards. So I'm dicing between the Hooker 4"s with glasspack inserts with a chance of too much volume or factories with a chance of not enough. I'll give it a think while you carry on the personal attacks!
I have factory side pipes on my '69 and agree with you that they are not that loud. I am 46 and like the level of the sound but 20 or 30 years ago would definitely have preferred something louder. My pipes have a pretty beefy sound and I can still have a conversation with a passenger as well as listen to tunes and hear them. Also, think about whether you are going to be going on any longer trips. I have straight pipes on my Harley and I can tell you that when go for a longer ride for to Daytona or the Keys I wish I had pipes that were a little quieter.
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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Edelrock
Nice '72 Vette! Very clean. Not quite what I'm after though. Too smooth, I'm after a bit of grit and imperfection
That is the first time I have heard that. My car is so far from original and being smooth. I doubt anyone will call a 500+ SB a smooth car. Grit and imperfection is more of what I would call it. I will leave many a blower car in the weeds as most of them are not setup for performance just looks like you want. I am one who is on the loud pedal often. My motor see 7000 rpm quite often and pulls very strong right up to that. I am definitly more into the performance than the "look" of the car. I think in the 15 years I have owned it I have waxed it twice? Yes it is clean but it is definitly not a show queen.
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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 09:43 PM
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Not to change the subject (well, actually it IS the subject ) but i just go to youtube and type in "comp cams" or "crane cams" and see what comes up. there is a wealth of SBC cams sounds on there. I personally like the way the comp cams 280 cam sounds like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogqSebstldQ

Not a corvette, but it is a small block chevy...
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Originally Posted by Edelrock
Anyway, has anyone ever tried putting some of those electronic, volume adjustable butterfly valved mufflers in side exhausts? Sounds like a perfect solution. I think I'm going to be going with side pipes. I've had a listen to the factory ones on youtube, and certainly not loud by my standards. So I'm dicing between the Hooker 4"s with glasspack inserts with a chance of too much volume or factories with a chance of not enough.

I think these side pipes are perfect for your needs and your car. They look as good as Hookers (maybe better) but at a much lower price. They would match up and go great with your faux blower.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chrom...item1e63b5c83b
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I have magnaflows and they don't sound anything like that clip...
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Build your motor to get your exhaust sound not the other way around. Cam has more to do with the sound that anything. No one really cares how it sounds except the ricer crowd.

If you were me just get a cam that gives you a pretty big lope and you got the fun sound. I run cats and borla in my LSX powered c6 and it is still too loud. but my goal with exhaust is to quiet down the car not make it louder.

A real motor needs suppression not amplification.

a good cam will give you this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTHXnjhg404
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I guess once a ricer, always a ricer.
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Old Sep 1, 2011 | 09:34 AM
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but my goal with exhaust is to quiet down the car not make it louder.

A real motor needs suppression not amplification.
Agree 100% I already have a loud car that pisses off the neighbors everytime I start it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jJTdwPsvss

Right now I want a quiet cruiser in my C3 so I can drive it without my neighbors glaring at me..
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