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Old Sep 2, 2011 | 09:15 AM
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gents, looking to replace the factory rear speakers on my 82 . I want the same look, no boom box setups so therefore they have to fit into the same well in the corner. I know this is a real pain but some people have posted here about finding shallow mount speakers that did in fact fit without any fabrication. Only thing is they didnt post the brand or model. I thought I found a pair with the correct depth and magnet configuration then when I got them the cone stuck out past the frame so they were no good. I've searched EBAY, Amazon, the net etc. I also bought a pair from Crutchfield that according to them was going to fit like a glove and they didnt either. So if anyone has a make and model I'd love to hear from you,
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Sorry that I ask but why would you want a set of rear speakers? You are listening to stereo (2 channel) material, right? You are not going to sit in the rear compartment, right? More than 2 main speaker system in 2 seat car is totally unnecessary and in fact does not improve over it.

I suggest you invest in good quality component speaker kit for the front + good amplifier. This will get you very satisfying sound and stereo experience.

I know you said you don't want a boom box but to add the frequencies the component kit in the front cannot reach maybe add 1 of 8-10" subwoofer to the rear compartment if you wish to reach low(er) frequencies.

You can also investigate if you could make a box (or 2) that would utilise the original speaker space in rear compartment for a small sub box. You can find subs that work nicely with small boxes. I did this with my C4: replaced the worthless 6x9" rear speakers with 8" subs - it works great. Very tight sound.

Just a thought....

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I just had the rears replaced with these Alpines:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Alpine+-...&skuId=1807206

The installer said they went in ok, I don't think he had to modify anything. But I am a little disappointed with the bass response (probably due to lack of volume). I'm probably going to go with a box such as this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CHEVY-CORVET...-/310341854444

Other than the lack of bass, its sounds great. Had the front 4x6's replaced as well.
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Old Sep 2, 2011 | 10:30 AM
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Sorry that I ask but why would you want a set of rear speakers? You are listening to stereo (2 channel) material, right? You are not going to sit in the rear compartment, right? More than 2 main speaker system in 2 seat car is totally unnecessary and in fact does not improve over it.

I suggest you invest in good quality component speaker kit for the front + good amplifier. This will get you very satisfying sound and stereo experience.

I know you said you don't want a boom box but to add the frequencies the component kit in the front cannot reach maybe add 1 of 8-10" subwoofer to the rear compartment if you wish to reach low(er) frequencies.

You can also investigate if you could make a box (or 2) that would utilise the original speaker space in rear compartment for a small sub box. You can find subs that work nicely with small boxes. I did this with my C4: replaced the worthless 6x9" rear speakers with 8" subs - it works great. Very tight sound.

Just a thought....
Your right, rear speakers are a total waste, I'll just pull them and throw them out. The boxes impede the ability to place the t-tops back there. ALready had that and ripped it out. Just wanted a decent set of rear speakers that would fit in the factory space available. I replaced the factory front set with Pioneer replacements and am running an aftermarket Pioneer am fm cd player.

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I just had the rears replaced with these Alpines:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Alpine+-...&skuId=1807206

The installer said they went in ok, I don't think he had to modify anything. But I am a little disappointed with the bass response (probably due to lack of volume). I'm probably going to go with a box such as this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CHEVY-CORVET...-/310341854444

Other than the lack of bass, its sounds great. Had the front 4x6's replaced as well.
Thx for the speaker recommendation, I was also looking at this set:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/searchpa...egories&ks=960
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Your right, rear speakers are a total waste, I'll just pull them and throw them out. The boxes impede the ability to place the t-tops back there. ALready had that and ripped it out. Just wanted a decent set of rear speakers that would fit in the factory space available. I replaced the factory front set with Pioneer replacements and am running an aftermarket Pioneer am fm cd player.
Sorry, don't know if your sarcastic or not but I was serious. Again I ask why do you want the rear speakers? Obviously not for good sound quality as they will provide none. If you just want to fill empty space buy speaker grills to cover the holes.

Pioneer does not make good front speakers (or component kits) nor does their radio/cd-players internal amp equal a good separate amplifier, not even close. It could be a decent music source for one though. I suggest you investigate more instead of wasting money.

But, don't let me slow you down if you really want them.
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Sorry, don't know if your sarcastic or not but I was serious. Again I ask why do you want the rear speakers? Obviously not for good sound quality as they will provide none.
I'll disagree with those statements. The rear speakers provide you the ability to move the sound from in front of you to place the sound centered at your head allowing the sound to be heard better. For those who have some hearing problems it make listening a bit easier with less volume. I have had 4 speaker systems for decades. It does provide better sound quality if you can direct it closer to your center line. There is a difference. Besides, we need help hearing above the bass rattle from the youngsters cars.
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I think the four speaker system, if properly balanced and faded adds to the overall sound quality (I know in a Vette this is impossible to achieve but I do find the rear speakers help). Just my 2 cents-Pete

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Sorry, don't know if your sarcastic or not but I was serious. Again I ask why do you want the rear speakers? Obviously not for good sound quality as they will provide none. If you just want to fill empty space buy speaker grills to cover the holes.

Pioneer does not make good front speakers (or component kits) nor does their radio/cd-players internal amp equal a good separate amplifier, not even close. It could be a decent music source for one though. I suggest you investigate more instead of wasting money.

But, don't let me slow you down if you really want them.
I was being sarcastic, your statement was the first time I ever heard anyone say rear speakers were a waste. Now, that being said I am in no way a stereo guru but I do know what I like and I certainly like listening to 4 speakers better than two regardless of what the acoustics, sound waves, bass, treble, mid-range or whatever other term you throw out there says should be better. Im not looking for a subwoofer to stick in an already cramped compartment. I also want to maintain the "stock" look and I dont want some ghetto blaster bazooka setup. Im just trying to slightly improve or replace worn out, dried out factory speakers. As a matter of fact after replacing the 30 yr old front speakers with the Pioneers even my tin ear noticed an improvement. I am just tryin to do the same with the rears without re-inventing the wheel. It doesnt mean that much too me. If it does to you and obviously some of the others out there and you choose to add sub-woofers, amps, kick panel speakers, round instead of 6x9 right up to and including revolving disco ***** than thats great for you too but not the effect I was looking to achieve but I do thank you for your input.
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I think the four speaker system, if properly balanced and faded adds to the overall sound quality (I know in a Vette this is impossible to achieve). Just my 2 cents-Pete
It's not impossible to achieve. With the right system and somebody that knows how to tune it, a great sound system can be had. I agree that a 4 speaker system will blow away a 2 speaker system anyday when tuned correctly.

I've got 6.5 components in the front kick panels, plate speakers in the stock dash locations, 6x9 in the rear corners and a 10" sub. The sound is crisp and clear, bass tight, and spacially right between my ears. I hate a system where the sound is all coming at you from one direction (ie front). Feels like you bought the cheap seats to the concert and you're in the back row looking over all the other patron's shoulders. I want to feel like I'm on stage, not in the back row.

I've noticed that most people who claim the two speaker system is best, also would also be satisfied with a 1950's AM radio.

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Like I said, don't let me slow you down. I have looked closely at some very high end systems even at EU championship level and those principles apply to lower end (like mine) systems too. But, I said my opinion on the matter, all are free to disagree and build their systems the way they like.

One last comment: The 4 speaker system was really cool in 80's but modern component kits and good quality amps make things really different in a small cockpit cars like Vettes. Progress happens in this field too. But I too would install 4 or more speakers to large family cars with rear seats. Think about it. Thats all.

I've noticed that most people who claim the two speaker system is best, also would also be satisfied with a 1950's AM radio.
Lol... I feel the same about 4 speakers in a 2 seater -people. Think about it, most highest end home stereo systems have how many speakers? Do they also feel silly as the sound is all coming at them only from 2 speakers in the front?

Well, anyways. Not here to argue. Hope you guys find your standard low end 6x9" rear speakers and be happy with them.

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Originally Posted by blckslvr79
It's not impossible to achieve. With the right system and somebody that knows how to tune it, a great sound system can be had. I agree that a 4 speaker system will blow away a 2 speaker system anyday when tuned correctly.

I agree and disagree......I agree a four speaker system in a Vette is better than any two speaker system.....but you are never gonna get, say for example, cadillac quality interior sound in a stock corvette that hasn't had extensive sound deadening padding added throughout the car. Engine and road noise are your enemy and they are aplenty in a stock corvette. OP doesn't want subwoofers and amps....he just wants a decent sounding system without all thos bells and whistles. Just adding a quality pair of rear speakers will do just that-Pete
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Lol... I feel the same about 4 speakers in a 2 seater -people. Think about it, most highest end home stereo systems have how many speakers? Do they also feel silly as the sound is all coming at them only from 2 speakers in the front?

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True...but they are not sitting as close to those speakers as you do in a corvette-Pete
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I've noticed that most people who claim the two speaker system is best, also would also be satisfied with a 1950's AM radio.
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If you had the ability to fade from front to back, then the 4 speaker setup is better. If you don't have the ability to fade from front to back, then I agree, a 4 speaker system is a waste. Most modern stereos now a day have a built in fader. Like I said, I just put in a complete new alpine system. It sounds great. Alpine doesn't make the 4x6's in front. But Polk does, so I got Polk 4 x 6 in front:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Polk+Aud...&skuId=1003101

And Alpine 6 x 9's in the back:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Alpine+-...&skuId=1807206

IT SOUNDS GREAT, other than there is no bass, which is when you need a box.
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Originally Posted by BFI6603
I agree and disagree......I agree a four speaker system in a Vette is better than any two speaker system.....but you are never gonna get, say for example, cadillac quality interior sound in a stock corvette that hasn't had extensive sound deadening padding added throughout the car. Engine and road noise are your enemy and they are aplenty in a stock corvette. OP doesn't want subwoofers and amps....he just wants a decent sounding system without all thos bells and whistles. Just adding a quality pair of rear speakers will do just that-Pete
I wasn't suggesting such a complex system for the OP, just refuting what others had said.

I agree with the road noise issue. Mine is sound deadened anywhere and everywhere I could put it just for this reason. Of course we can't eliminate engine noise in our C3 (who'd want too??). I can tell you though, I have no problem hearing any instrument in any song no matter if I'm sitting in the car with the engine off or cruising 70 on the interstate, even with side pipes. I'm not talking about just being loud either. It's as crisp at low-moderate volume as cranked up. The sound is balanced right in your head, not in front of you or behind you or next to you. There is no straining to hear or understand the music either.

A good amped 4 speaker system is the best way to go IMO.

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Engine and road noise are your enemy and they are aplenty in a stock corvette.
That is why you need a 300W amp, to drown all the road noise out.
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Lol... I feel the same about 4 speakers in a 2 seater -people. Think about it, most highest end home stereo systems have how many speakers? Do they also feel silly as the sound is all coming at them only from 2 speakers in the front?

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True...but they are not sitting as close to those speakers as you do in a corvette-Pete
Room dimensions and speaker location have much to do with good sound. Same as in a car.
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That is why you need a 300W amp, to drown all the road noise out.
Or more. I'm running about 320 to the speakers and another 400+ to the sub.

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