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Old Apr 6, 2012 | 10:36 PM
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I have been going back and forth on which exhaust to get for my 82. I know it's going to be a dual kit with Magnaflow mufflers but it's with the headers or keep the stock ones?? If I keep the stock ones I want to cut off the air tubes but don't know if the stockers will flow as much as the aftermarket ones? Then if I go with the aftermarket ones I can keep the originals with the air tubes. What's your thoughts??
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If you go with magnaflows you might as well just stay as stock as possible.
No use hot rodding one thing without matching another.
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Old Apr 6, 2012 | 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Tim H
If you go with magnaflows you might as well just stay as stock as possible.
No use hot rodding one thing without matching another.
Good thought but using the stock shortys after I grind off the air tubes and weld in the holes you will be able to see the difference. That's what I'm not sure about.
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Originally Posted by alconk
Good thought but using the stock shortys after I grind off the air tubes and weld in the holes you will be able to see the difference. That's what I'm not sure about.
Nothing is better than a set of long tube headers.
A set of free flowing mufflers like Dynomax or Pypes mufflers is a better choice or Flowmasters if you have a nice sounding cam to make them thump.

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Old Apr 7, 2012 | 03:54 AM
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Good thought but using the stock shortys after I grind off the air tubes and weld in the holes you will be able to see the difference. That's what I'm not sure about.[/QUOTE

Nothing is better than a set of long tube headers.
A set of free flowing mufflers like Dynomax or Pypes mufflers is a better choice or Flowmasters if you have a nice sounding cam to make them thump.
Yes you are right, but for the 82 and being the crossfire I'm limited to what I can do as far as performance. This is just gonna be a driver and looking for a slight improvement. I have Flowmasters on there now but can't get the potential out of them as far as sound goes because the cat is drowning them out. I don't like the way they look, in order to get them in there they had to hang them down some and look stupid. I wished Pypes made a kit for the 82 though, used them in the past on a 79 T/A and the kit was awesome, great fit and sound.
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Old Apr 7, 2012 | 05:22 AM
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I'd probably just stay with the stock exhaust manifolds for now, until you decide on headers later. Doubt shorty's will do much, except improve a more tuned exhaust sound. Really nothing like long tube headers, that will beef up mid torque feel.
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Old Apr 7, 2012 | 09:27 AM
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The stock 81-82 exhaust manifolds are some of the best GM ever had. They amount to short tube headers. You will not see enough gain with aftermarket headers to get your money out of them. Your gains will come from dual exhaust.

Keep your stock manifolds and the AIR. The AIR doesn't cost you any performance losses.

All of this is a moot point if you have to pass emissions testing.

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Old Apr 7, 2012 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by alconk
I have Flowmasters on there now but can't get the potential out of them as far as sound goes because the cat is drowning them out. I don't like the way they look, in order to get them in there they had to hang them down some and look stupid.
There is nothing about Flowmaster mufflers that makes you mount them hanging down.
Either someone picked the wrong part number, or the installer wasnt very good at their job.
Flowmasters can be tucked up as well as any other muffler.
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There is nothing about Flowmaster mufflers that makes you mount them hanging down.
Either someone picked the wrong part number, or the installer wasnt very good at their job.
Flowmasters can be tucked up as well as any other muffler.
Yea exactly, they were on there when I bought the car. No emission testing where I live.
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Nothing wrong with your stock manifolds. They are factory headers. We did this on my buddy's 82. We turned it into a carb. Car. Had the tunes cut and pluged. Works great.
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Weren't the factory headers stainless steel? I think they were. They'll outlast a cheap set 10-1. Why remove the air tubes? Just put brass plugs in the holes if you want to plug.
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Originally Posted by Mark G
Weren't the factory headers stainless steel? I think they were. They'll outlast a cheap set 10-1. Why remove the air tubes? Just put brass plugs in the holes if you want to plug.
Yes I can plug them but unlike others that are screwed in these are welded so they will need to be cut.
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Those factory stainless manifolds are JUNK. They were put on for weight savings, not performance. Get some long tube headers and the dual system and do it all at once. Also, I prefer Flowmasters. I have Magnaflows with true duals and long tubes and the car is quiet.
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Old Apr 7, 2012 | 11:14 PM
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I'm not going to use long tubes because no one makes a kit that will just bolt up. Remember the 82 has the cross member with only one hump so you have to make a turn right away and don't think there is room when using long tubes. No I'm not going to replace the cross member.
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Originally Posted by alconk
I'm not going to use long tubes because no one makes a kit that will just bolt up. Remember the 82 has the cross member with only one hump so you have to make a turn right away and don't think there is room when using long tubes. No I'm not going to replace the cross member.
I dont know your mechanical abilities, but I bought a exhaust system from one of the big Corvette suppliers. This was a dual system noted for "off road use only". The system fit good running down the passenger side. I took the pipes that connect to the stock manifold and cut them off at the right spot. Used a stiff wire for angle gage and went to the local muffler shop to have a bend put in the pipe for long tube header fittment.
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Originally Posted by Mark G
...Weren't the factory headers stainless steel?...
Yes.

Originally Posted by qwank
...Those factory stainless manifolds are JUNK. They were put on for weight savings, not performance...
Partially true; they are lighter than the older cast iron. They flow better than cast and that offers a performance gain. They are certainly not junk.

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If you aren't modifying the engine significantly, you don't need a better exhaust system. Are you getting rid of the catalytic converter too? If so, just buy a nice 2-1/2" aluminized stock exhaust system that will mount up to your present exhaust manifolds. Install whatever mufflers you want, but get aluminized or stainless units that will last a long time.

And, don't plan on being able to sell that car (without the emissions stuff) across state lines or to anyone wanting a 'stock' configuration car.
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I just installed a set of Pypes mufflers on my 81, they sound great! I have a new crate motor with a mild cam and I really love the sound.
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Old Apr 8, 2012 | 05:02 PM
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http://www.corvettecentralexhaust.co...mance_dual.php

Just throwing it out there as something to think about if you haven't already.


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Originally Posted by 7T1vette
If you aren't modifying the engine significantly, you don't need a better exhaust system. Are you getting rid of the catalytic converter too? If so, just buy a nice 2-1/2" aluminized stock exhaust system that will mount up to your present exhaust manifolds. Install whatever mufflers you want, but get aluminized or stainless units that will last a long time.

And, don't plan on being able to sell that car (without the emissions stuff) across state lines or to anyone wanting a 'stock' configuration car.
I have every piece of emission stuff including bolts that I have removed. That's why I really didn't want to saw on my stock exhaust manifolds.

Yes I'm getting rid of the cat and I'm looking at the dual kit from CC but whether or not to get them with the headers is my debate. If I could find a used set of manifolds I'd use those and keep my originals.
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