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Old May 2, 2012 | 08:26 AM
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Pics or it didn't happen
Haha I would love to provide some pics but I am currently deployed, my car is half way around the world.
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Old May 2, 2012 | 08:56 AM
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Haha I would love to provide some pics but I am currently deployed, my car is half way around the world.
Your suppose to upload a bunch of pics so you have access to them anytime you want!!! That way why you are over there you can look at her and figure out what you are going to do next as soon as you get back!

Well I hope you and your car are reunited soon!
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Haha I would love to provide some pics but I am currently deployed, my car is half way around the world.
Thanks for doing what you do. Retired military here.
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Old May 2, 2012 | 09:30 AM
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Thanks for doing what you do. Retired military here.
As I always like to say "thanks for the paycheck!" Semper Fidelis
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Old May 2, 2012 | 10:30 AM
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Scotty, you make a valid point. But.... The C3 was the Only corvette era to use vacuum headlight actuation...
Actually, I had a '69 Mercury Cougar that had vacuum operated headlight covers. and what about Camaro's of that era? weren't the RS/SS headlight covers vacuum operated? I think there were many other cars using a similar system if memory serves...
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Old May 2, 2012 | 11:00 PM
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Gungatim, I was referring to corvettes. I mentioned C3 as opposed to C2,C4,C5. No hideaways for C1 or C6. And as for 69 camaros there are kits available to replace the vacuum systems found on the RS models for 1/2 the cost of the electric kit that Ecklers sells for our C3's
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Old May 2, 2012 | 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by gungatim
Actually, I had a '69 Mercury Cougar that had vacuum operated headlight covers. and what about Camaro's of that era? weren't the RS/SS headlight covers vacuum operated? I think there were many other cars using a similar system if memory serves...
Doesn't mean it was a good idea, it just means that everyone was smoking out of the same bowl for a time...

I find it very telling that every non-C3 car I've seen since at least the early 80s, if not earlier, with pop-up lights uses electric motors.
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Old May 3, 2012 | 08:34 AM
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I am in the long drawn out process of changing the headlight system at the moment.
I have removed the entire vacum system for the lights & wiper door.

I will be repacing the headlight actuators with "pop up headlight motors" from a Mazda RX7.

I have already used these motors successfully in the wiper door assembly.

As I am moving house soon, it will be a while before I can start this project.

Good luck with your search. If you find an easier / cheaper way, keep us posted.



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Here is photo of the wiper door conversion.

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Old May 3, 2012 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by AAJC
I will be repacing the headlight actuators with "pop up headlight motors" from a Mazda RX7.

I have already used these motors successfully in the wiper door assembly.
Nice work Andrew, I like your resourcefulness. Looking forward to seeing your headlight conversion.
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Nice work Andrew, I like your resourcefulness. Looking forward to seeing your headlight conversion.
Ditto!
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I found an old thread at digital corvettes that addresses this issue. Unfortunately, the brackets he made are no longer manufactured. But I think with a little head scratching one should be able to come up with a solution. It uses actuators from a 93-97 firebird, I priced these as remans for $105 a piece at partsgeek.com, a switch from a 89 corvette, $36. Im going to look into this a bit more, but I think under $400 to put this setup together is a realistic number.
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Originally Posted by Sunstroked
I found an old thread at digital corvettes that addresses this issue. Unfortunately, the brackets he made are no longer manufactured. But I think with a little head scratching one should be able to come up with a solution. It uses actuators from a 93-97 firebird, I priced these as remans for $105 a piece at partsgeek.com, a switch from a 89 corvette, $36. Im going to look into this a bit more, but I think under $400 to put this setup together is a realistic number.
That's the McSpeed kit that I mentioned halfway up the thread.
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'67 Camaros used electric actuators, and in '68 and '69 they went to the vacuum system also. Must be a reason why GM went this way.

I think the kits for Camaros are less expensive because the probably sell way more. Covettes aren't supposed to be modified, remember?
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Originally Posted by I'm Batman
That's the McSpeed kit that I mentioned halfway up the thread.
Yeah, someone needs to pick up where he left off and start making those brackets again

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'67 Camaros used electric actuators, and in '68 and '69 they went to the vacuum system also. Must be a reason why GM went this way.

I think the kits for Camaros are less expensive because the probably sell way more. Covettes aren't supposed to be modified, remember?
Hmm im going to search around to see if I can find a kit SOMEWHERE!
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Originally Posted by I'm Batman
That's the McSpeed kit that I mentioned halfway up the thread.
I figured as much, but being as though the kit is no longer sold, one will have to acquire the parts separately. Those brackets would be a cinch to make, a little .071 aluminum sheet, a sheet metal brake, a hole saw and done. Thankfully, I know exactly where to get it done. Work.
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I have a McSpeed kit that I bought a long time ago and haven't installed yet....project not done. etc., etc. I'm out of town now, but when I get back I can lay it out and take pix, measurements and post it if anyone's interested.
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Originally Posted by mffi115
I have a McSpeed kit that I bought a long time ago and haven't installed yet....project not done. etc., etc. I'm out of town now, but when I get back I can lay it out and take pix, measurements and post it if anyone's interested.
Oh really. You don't want to install that thing. I suggest you go for a stock setup and put in the vacuum system...and since you'll be doing that now..you can sell the kit to me...
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GM was enamored with vacuum for years. They even ran their wipers on vacuum. Only wipers ever that the faster you went the slower the wipers went! Classic case of "just because you can do something doesn't mean you should."
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Originally Posted by qwank
'67 Camaros used electric actuators, and in '68 and '69 they went to the vacuum system also. Must be a reason why GM went this way.
I think someone in the engineering department started doing too much acid.
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Mine loves to do things like poking up the lights when I shut off the car, or even raising one if I hit the gas hard. Stupid vacuum system...
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I hate when they raise when you step on the gas!!!
My '78 did this until I tested - then replaced - the check valve. It's easy to test: Remove it from the system, put the single port that connects to your intake manifold (through the filter) to your lips, and try to blow through it. If you can blow through it, it is bad. About $20-$25 to replace. Replace the filter, too, while your at it.

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