Why did GM so under power the late C3s?
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Why did GM so under power the late C3s?
I understand the smog issues but 190HP. There are so many other options they could have used. Don't get me wrong, The 350 is a great motor and wears like iron but I'm talking about one of the best looking (in my opinion) GM cars ever. Sorta like putting a 4 cylinder engine in a Ferrari.
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It's fine with me, I think '80-'82 are the best looking ones, and they are CHEAP. A crate motor and new transmission later and you have an awesome car.
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The "muscle era" was over. The EPA was in charge. GM execs were idiots who didn't like powerful cars. Fuel was getting expensive. The insurance industry was getting enormous premiums for big cubed V8 engines with high HP/torque. And the Corvette no longer attracted the 'younger' enthusiast.
So, it became a 'high-end' toy for middle aged folks and more of a status symbol than a "sports car". Is that what you wanted to know?
P.S. Oh, at the time, GM thought Zora Duntov was passe'....
So, it became a 'high-end' toy for middle aged folks and more of a status symbol than a "sports car". Is that what you wanted to know?
P.S. Oh, at the time, GM thought Zora Duntov was passe'....
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What other options? During those years what other car had more than 200hp? The manufacturers had all they could handle trying to keep up with tougher emissions requirements every year. Before electronic fuel injection, distributorless ignitions and sophisticated computers, 190hp was the only option.
Gas prices and insurance had nothing to do with it. You can easily insure 600hp cars now.
Gas prices and insurance had nothing to do with it. You can easily insure 600hp cars now.
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At least the Vette soldiered on through the dark times. You couldnt get a V8 in a Mustang in 74,75 or 76 and all the Mopars were eliminated. At least GM had the Camaro , Vette, and firebird.
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Given the times GM, like all auto manufacturers, did the best they could with the technology they had at the time to meet emission standards and give not too dismal of fuel mileage.
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I blame the decline of American Muscle on Jimmy Carter. When he lost that battle with the rabbit that he said was trying to get in his boat and attack him, he took it out his frustrations by gelding Detroit Iron. Each night before I got to sleep, I thank the torque Gods that my sweetheart is a big block '70. 10.25 c.r. is not wild and wooly, but it's still a thrill to dump the clutch, hook up and go straight. The new Corvettes are awesome with power, speed, handling, comfort and good sound systems. At a cruise-in this weekend, I was top down and parked by an '11 Vette that had already been tweaked to almost 800hp...an'11! I would be worried about voiding my warranty. I think summer is here, even for the northern climes. Hope everyone gets to drive the tires off their cars this summer. AND BE SAFE!
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Because THIS is what our fine gubermint was pushing for....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2CqOj5WpMs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2CqOj5WpMs
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blckslvr79 Wow, thanks for that. Made me want to wear ugly clothes with a bad hair do and watch the Love Boat. We've come a long way.
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Because THIS is what our fine gubermint was pushing for....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2CqOj5WpMs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2CqOj5WpMs
http://forums.amceaglesden.com/index...9175#msg299175
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Okay, I'm sorry, but I still feel the urge to sing along with Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody.
It's 12:08-pm Texas time and I have to get up at 4-am to get the fire going for a brisket, rib, smokin' Sunday. Nighty night, and thank you Mr. Duntov, more than you will ever know.
It's 12:08-pm Texas time and I have to get up at 4-am to get the fire going for a brisket, rib, smokin' Sunday. Nighty night, and thank you Mr. Duntov, more than you will ever know.